Testosterone cypionate and masteron enanthate

Twiddlemyfiddle · Jun 16, 2022

Want to hear you guys' runs on these two by themselves. Was it worth it for you? Looking to lean bulk and harden up. Maybe gain 5 lbs would be solid while maintaining or dropping bf.

Planned on 400 test c 400 mast e.

Ran mast before usually alongside npp and eq but looking for a dryer look this time around.

Thought about adding some tren in the mix but everytime I come off I tell myself that's the last time but here I am again with temptation.

Also thinking about throwing in tbol or var in the mix with mast and test as well.

Searched on here for test mast cycles couldn't find too much so want to hear you guys thoughts.

BigBaldBeardGuy · Jun 16, 2022

Hmmm… I think you should start with an intro post in the general discussion forum first. And then ask questions.

Send0 · Jun 16, 2022

Twiddlemyfiddle said:
Want to hear you guys' runs on these two by themselves. Was it worth it for you? Looking to lean bulk and harden up. Maybe gain 5 lbs would be solid while maintaining or dropping bf.

Planned on 400 test c 400 mast e.

Ran mast before usually alongside npp and eq but looking for a dryer look this time around.

Thought about adding some tren in the mix but everytime I come off I tell myself that's the last time but here I am again with temptation.

Also thinking about throwing in tbol or var in the mix with mast and test as well.

Searched on here for test mast cycles couldn't find too much so want to hear you guys thoughts.

I think we know nothing about your training, diet, or history with gear.

I'd recommend writing an introduction post in the new members section so we can have that context.

Twiddlemyfiddle · Jun 16, 2022

BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Hmmm… I think you should start with an intro post in the general discussion forum first. And then ask questions.

My bad brother will do

Twiddlemyfiddle · Jun 16, 2022

Send0 said:
I think we know nothing about your training, diet, or history with gear.

I'd recommend writing an introduction post in the new members section so we can have that context.

Thanks bro ill do so now

lifter6973 · Jun 16, 2022

Twiddlemyfiddle said:
Thanks bro ill do so now

Where the hell is it? Do it MEOW!

lifter6973 · Jun 16, 2022

Not to hijack a tool thread oh wait yes it is. I was actually thinking about this myself. Any preference for Mast E over Mast P?
I'm thinking of going with Mast E for less pins and starting at 250 test/250 mast per week.

Twiddlemyfiddle · Jun 16, 2022

lifter6973 said:
Where the hell is it? Do it MEOW!

I did it in the newbie forum

Twiddlemyfiddle · Jun 16, 2022

lifter6973 said:
Not to hijack a tool thread oh wait yes it is. I was actually thinking about this myself. Any preference for Mast E over Mast P?
I'm thinking of going with Mast E for less pins and starting at 250 test/250 mast per week.

With my work schedule I work 24s so easier to have long esters and pin only twice a week for me at least.

lifter6973 · Jun 16, 2022

Twiddlemyfiddle said:
With my work schedule I work 24s so easier to have long esters and pin only twice a week for me at least.

Damn, here I was about to rip on you and now I just can't. Welcome bro. Hope you get some good advice. I will check out your other thread.

Sven Northman · Jun 16, 2022

Another "lean bulk"...smh.

Gain or cut. You cant do both. But like Riro says, get cut, then bulk up.

Twiddlemyfiddle · Jun 16, 2022

Sven Northman said:
Another "lean bulk"...smh.

Gain or cut. You cant do both. But like Riro says, get cut, then bulk up.

Already fairly lean so wouldn't mind gaining a bit

Sven Northman · Jun 16, 2022

Twiddlemyfiddle said:
Already fairly lean so wouldn't mind gaining a bit

Then I'd make a solid training and diet plan. Set a weight/physique goal and apply the proper compounds that will assist in your quest for mass. Check out some of Riro's posts. Very knowledgeable on the subject.

Twiddlemyfiddle · Jun 16, 2022

Sven Northman said:
Then I'd make a solid training and diet plan. Set a weight/physique goal and apply the proper compounds that will assist in your quest for mass. Check out some of Riro's posts. Very knowledgeable on the subject.

Sweet thanks man I'll look into those. What are your thoughts on test mast var as a cycle though?

Sven Northman · Jun 16, 2022

Twiddlemyfiddle said:
Sweet thanks man I'll look into those. What are your thoughts on test mast var as a cycle though?

I'd run test at a simple 500/wk and add in the Mast for the last 8 weeks at 500/600 of a 12 week cycle. It works best when you're already lean at making you shredded and solid. Plus the "well being/feel good" benefits. It increases my appetite so that's an additional benefit if gaining mass is the goal.

The var at the back end for 4-6 weeks will keep the gains coming.

I'm no expert and I'm sure the vets may have a different recommendation. But thats what I'd do.

Twiddlemyfiddle · Jun 16, 2022

Sven Northman said:
I'd run test at a simple 500/wk and add in the Mast for the last 8 weeks at 500/600 of a 12 week cycle. It works best when you're already lean at making you shredded and solid. Plus the "well being/feel good" benefits. It increases my appetite so that's an additional benefit if gaining mass is the goal.

The var at the back end for 4-6 weeks will keep the gains coming.

I'm no expert and I'm sure the vets may have a different recommendation. But thats what I'd do.

Thanks man appreciate the help sounds like a solid plan. Itching for the tren but trying to contain myself.

BigBaldBeardGuy · Jun 16, 2022

Twiddlemyfiddle said:
Want to hear you guys' runs on these two by themselves. Was it worth it for you? Looking to lean bulk and harden up. Maybe gain 5 lbs would be solid while maintaining or dropping bf.

Planned on 400 test c 400 mast e.

Ran mast before usually alongside npp and eq but looking for a dryer look this time around.

Thought about adding some tren in the mix but everytime I come off I tell myself that's the last time but here I am again with temptation.

Also thinking about throwing in tbol or var in the mix with mast and test as well.

Searched on here for test mast cycles couldn't find too much so want to hear you guys thoughts.

Lean bulk is pretty hard to do. Most guys end up spinning their wheels and either eat wrong and get fat or don’t eat enough and don’t gain much mass.

All steroids work about the same as far as building muscle. There are some slight differences in effects though. There’s nothing magical about Tren that the other compounds don’t already do. If you’re not looking to compete or your livelihood doesn’t depend on your physique then you don’t need to use Tren (I’m sure you’ll try it anyway though, in which case please remember that I told you so).

400 Test and 400 mast is a good cycle. I’d go 12-16 weeks on that. You’ll like it and it’s not too hard on the body. Adding var at the end is a good way to get thru any plateaus you may hit.

How’s your training. You’d be surprised how many guys are using steroids before they are actually at the point where they need to. Guys that don’t bench 3 plates or squat 4. They jumped the gun a little bit. Training and diet needs to come before the drugs. The drugs work but they aren’t “magic”.

IronSoul · Jun 16, 2022

I love test/tren/mast together. I haven’t ran car with them but I can only imagine I would love it even more. Tbol is amazing but idk if I’d throw it in for what you’re wanting to do. If it were me, I’d absolutely rub the test/tren/mast. I’d recommend shorter esters, just because I do better with them and yield better results, and if tren causes you any harsh sides, it’s easier to get ace out of your system. But I see you work 24’s so I completely get the longer esters. You’ll be good either way. You know how you respond to things better than I do. I’ve always maintained muscle while leaning, and even had great recomps on those compounds together.

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Send0 · Jun 17, 2022

CJ said:
Let's see some pics

Mr. Lean over here, ready to pounce on people claiming they are lean.

I liked you more as a Sasquatch

TomJ · Jun 17, 2022

Sven Northman said:
Another "lean bulk"...smh.

Gain or cut. You cant do both. But like Riro says, get cut, then bulk up.

Not that I disagree, I roll my eyes whenever I see "maingain" or lean bulk too.
because in general, if a person is asking for advice, they aren't going to be capable of gaining size while keeping body fat low without spinning their wheels a lot!

However it is possible to do, but only on a strictly structured diet to get the calories dialed in perfect.

This is what unintentionally happened to me during the last 6 months of off-season, only because adherence was getting really hard with any more food.

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