4B Movement: American women swear off dating, sex, marriage and children

Interest in the 4B Movement has spiked in the United States over the past week, which sees women swearing off all traditional contact with men:

No sex. No dating. No marriage. No children. Interest grows in 4B movement to swear off men

In the days after Donald Trump was elected president, a South Korean feminist movement is capturing young women’s interest on social media.

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It's called "4B" because "B" is a shorthand for the word "no" in Korean — and a series of "nos" is what the movement calls for.

No sex.

No dating.

No marrying men.

No children.

Young women on Instagram and TikTok are the primary demographic behind the recent American surge in interest. The idea behind the movement is individual resistance against what it defines as a conservative political environment and the corrosion of reproductive rights.

Michaela Thomas, a 21-year-old artist in Georgia, told The Washington Post that she first heard about the 4B movement about a year ago.

"Young men expect sex, but they also want us to not be able to have access to abortion," Thomas told The Post. "They can't have both. Young women don't want to be intimate with men who don't fight for women's rights; it's showing they don't respect us."

The concept of a "sex strike" is not new. The ancient Greek play "Lysistrata" highlights women swearing off sex to protest the Peloponnesian War. In South Korea, the 4B movement took root at a time when the country was undergoing its own reckoning with gender violence and equality issues. (It is a country with one of the widest wage gaps in the world.)

In the United States, there is a growing ideological divide between young men and women: Women aged 18 to 30 are 30 percent more liberal than men of the same age, according to The Financial Times. Some experts point to the 2018 #MeToo movement as the key trigger in the rise in feminist values among women and the subsequent backlash among young men.

 

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

Time for a new reality show to test out this theory. We'll send you everywhere from Atlanta to rural Wyoming to get laid.

Santa In Atlanta has a good ring to it.

Let him loose in LA, NYC or Miami.

Give him Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, whatever else the kids are using these days.

Dude's gonna find himself an incel and not know why.

 

[Send0]

Dating is the same as it’s always been. I’ve been married and divorced a few times so I’ve experienced gaps in dating. Maybe I’m blessed but I don’t see, or have experienced any of this shit. It’s easy to find someone if you’re not a douchebag, take care of yourself, present well, have a decent career, etc.

A lot of it is just social media bullshit that doesn't translate to real world experience, but lots of men and women are easily confused and think the videos they see reflect reality.

 

[Santa]

A lot of it is just social media bullshit that doesn't translate to real world experience, but lots of men and women are easily confused and think the videos they see reflect reality.

I believe this is it 100 percent. Maybe I’d see things differently if all I knew was social media and dating apps. But that shit isn’t real life to me.

 

[Send0]

I believe this is it 100 percent. Maybe I’d see things differently if all I knew was social media and dating apps. But that shit isn’t real life to me.

I often wonder if the same people who think that reflects reality also think WWE and Santa Claus are both real too.

 

[Diesel59]

WWE

It's still real to me, dammit!

 

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

It's still real to me, dammit!

 

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

I often wonder if the same people who think that reflects reality also think WWE and Santa Claus are both real too.

Ever consider that some people just have different life experiences than you?

 

[Diesel59]

A lot of it is just social media bullshit that doesn't translate to real world experience, but lots of men and women are easily confused and think the videos they see reflect reality.

I think it's pretty accurate if you deal with gen z and millennial white women in liberal, suburban areas. Just my two cents.

 

[Andrewgen_Receptors]

I think it's pretty accurate if you deal with gen z and millennial white women in liberal, suburban areas. Just my two cents.

The data absolutely supports this.

Globalizing the sexual marketplace had a lot of unintended consequences.

 

[Send0]

Ever consider that some people just have different life experiences than you?

Ever consider that everything isn't so serious, and doesn't require a serious response?

My post wasn't even directed to you, still got triggered.

 

[Santa]

It's still real to me, dammit!

I would let Charlotte Flair have her way with me

 

[Send0]

I would let Charlotte Flair have her way with me

I'll take sable in her prime, obviously.

 

[Diesel59]

I'll take sable in her prime, obviously.

Trish Stratus in 2024 is wayyyy hotter than prime Sable.

 

[Send0]

I think it's pretty accurate if you deal with gen z and millennial white women in liberal, suburban areas. Just my two cents.

I know plenty of gen Z and millennial white women. They all mock those videos and skits, and agree that even if a very small minority of women are like that... That it still doesn't reflect reality.

Another unpopular opinion, even though I can't stand their slang and the way they interact socially... the way gen Z is depicted also is not entirely reflective of reality when looked at as a whole.

 

[Santa]

Trish Stratus in 2024 is wayyyy hotter than prime Sable.

You’re stretching my WWE nerd knowledge, let me look her up. I’ll say yes in advance just because I’m a whore. I probably jerked off to Chyna back in the day that’s how desperate it was pre-internet.

 

[Diesel59]

I know plenty of gen Z and millennial white women. They all mock those videos and skits, and agree that even if a very small minority of women are like that... That it still doesn't reflect reality.

Could this simply come down to you living in Texas and me living in the DMV?

Another unpopular opinion, even though I can't stand their slang and the way they interact socially... the way gen Z is depicted also is not entirely reflective of reality when looked at as a whole.

I agree with you 100%.

Even though I am a millennial, most people I talk to are Gen Z and I easily prefer them to people my age.

 

[Send0]

I probably jerked off to Chyna back in the day that’s how desperate it was pre-internet.

Gheyyyyyyyyyy

 

[Diesel59]

Gheyyyyyyyyyy

Does that mean HHH is gay?

He was banging her in '96 long before she got a boob job and other feminizing surgeries.

 

[Send0]

Could this simply come down to you living in Texas and me living in the DMV?

Sure, if you think I only know women in Texas that is .

I'm going to go with no. While Texas is conservative, it's not like it's a 80/20 split. Even then, I have friends I visit in Washington, Oregon, California... the most liberal of liberal states. Same shit, different state.

I agree with you 100%.

Even though I am a millennial, most people I talk to are Gen Z and I easily prefer them to people my age.

Yep, and this is an example why people shouldn't always believe what they see or read on the internet. So much stuff out there is just rage bait meant to get views. What better way to do that than make a divisive/polarizing post/skit/video/whatever? So much of the internet is fake these days.

 

[Santa]

Could this simply come down to you living in Texas and me living in the DMV?

I’ve lived in both. I was stationed in DC and lived in Virginia for 15+ years. Now I’m in Texas. In my experience there isn’t much difference.