Another DNP run...

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Sort of fell off the deficit wagon for a week. Still on 200mg ED, but the loss of strength was starting to really bug me. What surprised me was adding 1000 calories to my existing 500 calorie deficit resulted in a gain of 10 lbs in just over a week, and I gained nothing on any lift. I stupidly kept carbs low to avoid sides.

Fortunately most of the weight came back off the first two days I returned to deficit eating, and I should be back to 225 by next Friday. I guess I would have had to stop the DNP to get some strength back, but I stayed with the 200mg. I guess I'll call it a learning experience instead of a waste of two weeks : )
 
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Man at your age why are you fucking using dnp it buffle me lol
Probably nothing to lose anymore?
 

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Man at your age why are you fucking using dnp it buffle me lol
Probably nothing to lose anymore?
Entertainment mostly. If I thought it was a serious risk I wouldn't be doing it. Not like it deposits lethal spike proteins in my organs or anything crazy like that : )

I'm going to have to stop for a while, though. Work load has picked up, and I'm spending more and more time in fucking meetings in a conference room that's over heated in the winter. I was miserable all day yesterday. It was 60 degrees outside and they had the heat on.
 
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Entertainment mostly. If I thought it was a serious risk I wouldn't be doing it. Not like it deposits lethal spike proteins in my organs or anything crazy like that : )

I'm going to have to stop for a while, though. Work load has picked up, and I'm spending more and more time in fucking meetings in a conference room that's over heated in the winter. I was miserable all day yesterday. It was 60 degrees outside and they had the heat on.
Pherifereal neurhophaty is a possible side effect and a very debilitating one.

But you are a very grown up person, can definetly make your own choices ;)
 

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Pherifereal neurhophaty is a possible side effect and a very debilitating one.

But you are a very grown up person, can definetly make your own choices ;)
I honestly have no idea how you turned 'peripheral neuropathy' into this word soup but it did give me a giggle.

In any case, the concern is warranted, although peripheral neuropathy isn't exactly a common side-effect.
 

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There are early indications for peripheral neuropathy. It's not something that happens overnight and immediately becomes irreversible. I would have stopped had there been the slightest indication.
 
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I honestly have no idea how you turned 'peripheral neuropathy' into this word soup but it did give me a giggle.

In any case, the concern is warranted, although peripheral neuropathy isn't exactly a common side-effect.
Sorry I'm not English native and the autocorrect didn't correct well 😂
 
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There are early indications for peripheral neuropathy. It's not something that happens overnight and immediately becomes irreversible. I would have stopped had there been the slightest indication.
Sure true, it's not irreversible but it takes months most of the time to revert back to normal. Just be carefull you are still poisoning your body with that shit.
 

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I made it to 217, but work is making DNP impossible. New contracts are coming out of the sky, and the number of meetings I'm scheduled for every week has me concerned for my sanity. I'm sure stewing in my own sweat multiple times a day in a 75+ degree conference room would push me over the edge.

I guess I'm going to have to lose the rest the old fashioned way. I'm hoping the talk of losing a bit more at the end of the run will get me a little lower. I would be ecstatic to hit 210 next week, but I'm not holding my breath.

I was starting to be a little concerned about my BP anyway. This morning it was 104/68 with a 93 pulse. Unless tren works differently on a cut, I have no idea why BP would be that low. I'm probably not staying hydrated enough despite having to piss every 20 minutes.

Anyway, I'm done with DNP for the rest of the year. I still want to hit 200 by January - and get my DL back to 500 by May! Except for the DL part, it doesn't seem like it will be that hard. Worse case I guess is I could be posting a lower back recovery log early next year : )
 

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Is it normal to make significant strength gains right after ending a DNP run? It's been barely two weeks, and my dead lift, for example, is a little above where I was before the cut. I could really get used to that. Would be worth another pre-Christmas run.
 
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Is it normal to make significant strength gains right after ending a DNP run? It's been barely two weeks, and my dead lift, for example, is a little above where I was before the cut. I could really get used to that. Would be worth another pre-Christmas run.
2 weeks, definitely. I've read multiple places that after a week of cessation the body can experience glycogen supercompensation. If you were able to maintain weigh on the bar during your run, I'd say this could be normal.
 

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glycogen super compensation... wish I could get that without suffering through night sweats first : ) For a short time it was really cool to add weight every set and still not limit out.

I'm ready for another run for sure. Have to get some work crap out of the way first. Maybe after Thanksgiving.
 

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Recover or increase strength? I have never seen that, but if there is some kind of anabolism in the form of rebound after cutting the DNP
 

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Recover or increase strength? I have never seen that, but if there is some kind of anabolism in the form of rebound after cutting the DNP
Most lifts are about where they were before the cut, but I definitely gained on dead lift. I'm pulling more and moving faster.
 

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I'm back on 200mg ed (wife gave me permission!). Sides won't have a chance to kick in until well after Thanksgiving, and work is slowing (I always forget that Europe basically shuts down between now and the first of the year). Odds are I will bump it up to 400mg at some point - see if I can beat the cravings this time.

I've given up trying to predict what my weight should be. The scale is a lying bitch.. I got heavier after the last run, and still visibly lost fat. I'm just going to go by the mirror for now. Also taking some time off work, though not every day.

Switching to hiking from biking so I can spend longer on the trails without the DNP wiping me out in the first 20 minutes.
 
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I'm back on 200mg ed (wife gave me permission!). Sides won't have a chance to kick in until well after Thanksgiving, and work is slowing (I always forget that Europe basically shuts down between now and the first of the year). Odds are I will bump it up to 400mg at some point - see if I can beat the cravings this time.

I've given up trying to predict what my weight should be. The scale is a lying bitch.. I got heavier after the last run, and still visibly lost fat. I'm just going to go by the mirror for now. Also taking some time off work, though not every day.

Switching to hiking from biking so I can spend longer on the trails without the DNP wiping me out in the first 20 minutes.

Watching this, interested to hear.
 

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Forget about the scale and mirrors, take photos before starting the cycle, and 10 days after finishing it. Follow the diet rigorously.
 

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I've given up trying to predict what my weight should be. The scale is a lying bitch.. I got heavier after the last run, and still visibly lost fat. I'm just going to go by the mirror for now.
So, supposedly DNP causes water retention, scale will show that even though you look better.
 
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