Any luck tightening loose skin?

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Anyone have any success tightening loose skin without surgery? I realize it may tighten over time but it seems older people don't have that happen. Maybe GHK-Cu or Collagen might help a bit? Something else?
 

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I've seen your pics, how long has it been since your big weight loss?
 

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Anyone have any success tightening loose skin without surgery? I realize it may tighten over time but it seems older people don't have that happen. Maybe GHK-Cu or Collagen might help a bit? Something else?
It's not going to tighten that much given your age. The elasticity and ability to produce the necessary collagen to reverse the effects is severely weakened.

Collagen supps won't help here. I have no idea about GHK-Cu, but my gut feeling is that it will not help much either
 

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I also don't know if id personally opt for surgery. They will basically do a tummy tuck. If you've ever seen this on women, then you're aware of the scar it leaves that runs horizontally from left hip to right hip.

Given that you're only 143lbs, you can probably fill out a good amount of that loose skin by just adding lean muscle mass. You easily have room for 40lbs, and I just can't imagine that it wouldn't help mask the loose skin significantly.
 

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From my experience I don't think chk cu would help with loose skin. Wait where is the loose skin at? Snap 8 may be a small temporary solution. Red light therapy may help long term.
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I've seen your pics, how long has it been since your big weight loss?

Thinking back, from memory, about 12 years ago I was 40 pounds heavier. Dropped that down to 20 pounds too heavy, got into pretty good shape several years before Covid. I lived in the northeast, they closed everything, so no gym and it was cold so not much outdoor activity. Even in the Spring, beaches closed, riding and running trails closed. So some fat came back on. I didn't keep careful track, but there has been some up and down with my weight. Once I got out of the fitness habit it was easy to be lazy, but not too long after Covid calmed down I moved south and got back into okay shape, maybe 3.5 years ago. Not as good as I want, but I'm trying to get there now.

Apparently I have less belly fat than I thought, although those annoying love handles are still there. I'm now thinking what I thought was fat is more loose skin.

I also don't know if id personally opt for surgery. They will basically do a tummy tuck. If you've ever seen this on women, then you're aware of the scar it leaves that runs horizontally from left hip to right hip.

Given that you're only 143lbs, you can probably fill out a good amount of that loose skin by just adding lean muscle mass. You easily have room for 40lbs, and I just can't imagine that it wouldn't help mask the loose skin significantly.
Oh, great point about the scar, I didn't realize that. The surgery is going to be expensive with an annoying recovery, and I probably don't want to deal with that anyhow. Then there is all this crap about lasers, RF energy, whatever. Its probably all a scam, which is why I was seeking advice for what might work.

Wow, putting on 40 pounds? I was hoping to put on 7 to 9 this winter, or maybe a little more with some, er, help. I thought I read somewhere my potential was about 163 pounds, so that's just 20 more than I am now.
 

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Thinking back, from memory, about 12 years ago I was 40 pounds heavier. Dropped that down to 20 pounds too heavy, got into pretty good shape several years before Covid. I lived in the northeast, they closed everything, so no gym and it was cold so not much outdoor activity. Even in the Spring, beaches closed, riding and running trails closed. So some fat came back on. I didn't keep careful track, but there has been some up and down with my weight. Once I got out of the fitness habit it was easy to be lazy, but not too long after Covid calmed down I moved south and got back into okay shape, maybe 3.5 years ago. Not as good as I want, but I'm trying to get there now.

Apparently I have less belly fat than I thought, although those annoying love handles are still there. I'm now thinking what I thought was fat is more loose skin.


Oh, great point about the scar, I didn't realize that. The surgery is going to be expensive with an annoying recovery, and I probably don't want to deal with that anyhow. Then there is all this crap about lasers, RF energy, whatever. Its probably all a scam, which is why I was seeking advice for what might work.

Wow, putting on 40 pounds? I was hoping to put on 7 to 9 this winter, or maybe a little more with some, er, help. I thought I read somewhere my potential was about 163 pounds, so that's just 20 more than I am now.

I'm no expert, but I'd imagine that surgery is going to be the route to go, if it bothers you that much. There's been a long enough period of time for it to tighten up, I think that's all you're going to get.
 

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I lived in the northeast, they closed everything, so no gym and it was cold so not much outdoor activity
Snowshoes are fucking sick cardio. Cross Country ski's can be if you don't spend most of your time gliding. Hell just picking a tree across the field and jogging to it through knee high snow is a fucking chore and a half. Great shit when I still had knees.
 

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Wow, putting on 40 pounds? I was hoping to put on 7 to 9 this winter, or maybe a little more with some, er, help. I thought I read somewhere my potential was about 163 pounds, so that's just 20 more than I am now.
When I say 40lbs, I don't mean in a single cycle or phase. This is going to be a multi year endeavor.

Honestly you have to be very depleted by now, and you'd probably gain 10lbs easily from just carb reloading.
 

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Snowshoes are fucking sick cardio. Cross Country ski's can be if you don't spend most of your time gliding. Hell just picking a tree across the field and jogging to it through knee high snow is a fucking chore and a half. Great shit when I still had knees.

Yup, I had no problems being very active.

*I will never break trail, though. Fuck that.
 

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Yup, I had no problems being very active.

*I will never break trail, though. Fuck that.
Thee Worst trail I ever had to break was across the lake of all GD places dude , sled broke down , blew the plug right out of the piston.

Warm near the end of Feb , still like 3 ft of snow on the lake but it wasnt all hard and there was like 8 inches of water under all of that on top of the ice .. get 3 steps ,, crash through ,, 2 steps ,, whoomph back down .. 5 steps .. over n over again for around a 1/4 mile ..

No shit at one point I laid down and asked God not to let me die of a heart attack.

Fucking miserable.
 
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Maybe GHK-Cu or Collagen might help a bit?
Neither one is going to help. I'm not sold on the benefits of supplemental collagen for cosmetic use. The GHK-Cu properties won't help the lose skin tighten up, though it does many other positive properties, that's just not one of them.
 

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Neither one is going to help. I'm not sold on the benefits of supplemental collagen for cosmetic use. The GHK-Cu properties won't help the lose skin tighten up, though it does many other positive properties, that's just not one of them.

It's been tested, collagen protein doesn't work that way. It still gets digested down to individual amino acids, di and tri peptides, so it's not like eating collagen goes to repairing collagen in the body. If it worked that way, we'd eat liver to help our livers, eat heart to help our hearts, etc...

Plus, collagen is an inferior quality protein. As long as one is eating an adequate amount of quality protein, his bases are covered.


 
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It's been tested, collagen protein doesn't work that way. It still gets digested down to individual, di, and tri peptides, so it's not like eating collagen goes to repairing collagen in the body. If it worked that way, we'd eat liver to help our livers, eat heart to help our hearts, etc...

Plus, collagen is an inferior quality protein. As long as one is eating an adequate amount of quality protein, his bases are covered.


I think .. think mind you , the only one that will reach skin and nails is Type 2.
 

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I think .. think mind you , the only one that will reach skin and nails is Type 2.

Even if, it's not type 2 that was eaten/supplemented, it's type 2 that our body made.
 

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It's been tested, collagen protein doesn't work that way. It still gets digested down to individual, di, and tri peptides, so it's not like eating collagen goes to repairing collagen in the body. If it worked that way, we'd eat liver to help our livers, eat heart to help our hearts, etc...

Plus, collagen is an inferior quality protein. As long as one is eating an adequate amount of quality protein, his bases are covered.


Sometimes I just want people to take my word for it without going into the details. lol

Thanks for the backup though.
 

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Thanks everyone, sadly that's pretty much what I expected y'all to say. At my age, I can't expect my skin to snap back.


I'm no expert, but I'd imagine that surgery is going to be the route to go, if it bothers you that much. There's been a long enough period of time for it to tighten up, I think that's all you're going to get.

It bothers the crap out of me. That said, I'll put on some muscle and wait and see what happens. Maybe the skin will shrink just a little and the muscle will help and it will be okay. I'm not anxious to go spend $15k with a 4 to 6 week recovery anyhow!

Snowshoes are fucking sick cardio. Cross Country ski's can be if you don't spend most of your time gliding. Hell just picking a tree across the field and jogging to it through knee high snow is a fucking chore and a half. Great shit when I still had knees.

I absolutely despise being cold, and cold weather sports. I don't know how I lived up there as long as I did. My cold weather outside cardio was shoveling snow, and I got plenty of that in.

When I say 40lbs, I don't mean in a single cycle or phase. This is going to be a multi year endeavor.

Honestly you have to be very depleted by now, and you'd probably gain 10lbs easily from just carb reloading.

With proper training and nutrition, is 1 pound a week reasonable or is that aggressive? I think even just 10 pounds of muscle would make a big improvement. But I don't want to try and eat so much that I add back a lot of fat with the muscle.
 

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Thanks everyone, sadly that's pretty much what I expected y'all to say. At my age, I can't expect my skin to snap back.




It bothers the crap out of me. That said, I'll put on some muscle and wait and see what happens. Maybe the skin will shrink just a little and the muscle will help and it will be okay. I'm not anxious to go spend $15k with a 4 to 6 week recovery anyhow!



I absolutely despise being cold, and cold weather sports. I don't know how I lived up there as long as I did. My cold weather outside cardio was shoveling snow, and I got plenty of that in.



With proper training and nutrition, is 1 pound a week reasonable or is that aggressive? I think even just 10 pounds of muscle would make a big improvement. But I don't want to try and eat so much that I add back a lot of fat with the muscle.
Ok i can see that its not for every one , I'm a mountain dwarf , ice and snow are when I come alive , I'll trade any day over 80 for one under -20
 

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As far as the loose skin , it will shrink up some over time , ive lost 111lbs now and at first it was every where.

Now its mostly just my inner thighs and my ab area that are horrible , the rest even my lower back seems to have tightened up.

Most of the weight has been off around 2 years now almost 3 so that might give you a bit of hope. It will shrink , not back where it was when we were young and all elastic , but it wont stay looking like a trash bag full of crepe paper forever.
 

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As far as the loose skin , it will shrink up some over time , ive lost 111lbs now and at first it was every where.

Now its mostly just my inner thighs and my ab area that are horrible , the rest even my lower back seems to have tightened up.

Most of the weight has been off around 2 years now almost 3 so that might give you a bit of hope. It will shrink , not back where it was when we were young and all elastic , but it wont stay looking like a trash bag full of crepe paper forever.
That does give me some hope thanks!
 

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