Best Bulking cycles

[Monsters.do.exist]

I'm going to run a Test, Npp, Tren cycle with Superdrol kickstart. Is there anything else for bulking you guys would add? Dbol doesn't really seem to work well for me as all I do is retain water like crazy. Also worth mentioning, I am on a base trt dosage of test 60.75mg daily but will probally add the supplemental Test to make it around 700mg weekly, npp 300mg weekly, Tren 300mg weekly, superdrol start at 10mg then step up to 20mg daily for 2 weeks.

 

[Thrawn]

What kind of test, tren? Why 2 19 nors at same time? Usually with traditional bulk ,water retention goes hand in hand. Water retention on a bulk can be beneficial. Sounds like you want lean mass cycle. Sdrol and tren are both pretty harsh on liver.

 

[GreatGunz]

Cycle history
Years lifting
Etc…….

No way in hell would I run tren with no/ no need to go above 225 a week

 

[Yano]

Why 2 19 nors at same time

It's more of a look thing in my experience running deca and tren with test. The deca gives you the extra nitrogen retention and the fuller muscle bellies so ya look a bit more jacked up and the Tren keeps you dry due to the way it triggers your body to shed water and release aldosterone.

Tried it a couple of time .. meh. Not worth the severely broken sleep patterns and night anxiety without a very specific goal in my opinion.

 

[Yano]

I'm going to run a Test, Npp, Tren cycle with Superdrol kickstart. Is there anything else for bulking you guys would add? Dbol doesn't really seem to work well for me as all I do is retain water like crazy. Also worth mentioning, I am on a base trt dosage of test 60.75mg daily but will probally add the supplemental Test to make it around 700mg weekly, npp 300mg weekly, Tren 300mg weekly, superdrol start at 10mg then step up to 20mg daily for 2 weeks.

You ever stack that much Tren with any amount of Sdrol ?

You ever see one of those signs at the carnival that says ,, you need to be > this tall , to ride this ride ... that is one of those combos.

You are not a fucking dirtbike ,, you don't need a kick start and orals at the start of a run are again .. in my humble opinion .. a waste.

Orals are for the end of a run last 2/8 weeks depending on the compound some you can run longer like var.

Orals are for breaking plateau's , getting the last few lbs on a bar before a meet , contest prep in some situations.

 

[Monsters.do.exist]

36 now been running cycles off and on every few years since I was 22. My body is super tolerate of Tren to a degree I have like a dumbest ran as much as 700mg a week with no sides which could have been underdosed who knows it wasn't tested but 300 seems to be my sweet spot, I have never ran superdrol at all dbol I ran but hated the bloated water weight I got from it . Test my trt dose is 60.75 mg daily but 700mg is where I feel good at weekly. My last cycle was 2 mo the ago I ran eq, test, win and Mast. Currently not competing at anything but would like to compete in an amateur classic physique comp at 40. Currently sitting at 5'10 209lbs 24% body fat . Any advice is much appreciated I am definitely open to more knowledgeable from people and very open minded in learning new/body things. I work out 5 days a week twice a day intaking about 2500cals and about 240grams protien.

 

[Yano]

36 now been running cycles off and on every few years since I was 22. My body is super tolerate of Tren to a degree I have like a dumbest ran as much as 700mg a week with no sides which could have been underdosed who knows it wasn't tested but 300 seems to be my sweet spot, I have never ran superdrol at all dbol I ran but hated the bloated water weight I got from it . Test my trt dose is 60.75 mg daily but 700mg is where I feel good at weekly. My last cycle was 2 mo the ago I ran eq, test, win and Mast. Currently not competing at anything but would like to compete in an amateur classic physique comp at 40. Currently sitting at 5'10 209lbs 24% body fat . Any advice is much appreciated I am definitely open to more knowledgeable from people and very open minded in learning new/body things. I work out 5 days a week twice a day intaking about 2500cals and about 240grams protien.

right on , sdrol is heartburn city around 4/6 hours after dosing , works great but its hard to eat on.

 

[Monsters.do.exist]

What kind of test, tren? Why 2 19 nors at same time? Usually with traditional bulk ,water retention goes hand in hand. Water retention on a bulk can be beneficial. Sounds like you want lean mass cycle. Sdrol and tren are both pretty harsh on liver.

Test 600 blend (100mg iso, 300mg dec, 200mg eth), Tren E 400, I have ran Tren with every cycle I have ever ran its familiar to me to know how my body reacts and its never spike my liver enzymes or anything to show harmful to my liver on the blood work but that is why I was limiting the superdrol to 14 days only. Water retention in the muscle is fine I'm talking I got a lot of water in the face almost moon face type with dbol. Yes a lean cycle would be awesome but doesn't seem like there is a way to do that without putting on a little extra weight that's not muscle in the process to .

 

[MG_87]

Atheist your open to advice

 

[Trenbolonely]

Definitely not that using orals and tren would not be good for the amount of digestion if you are eating unprocessed whole food… but
24% body fat wanting to bulk is already not where anybody should be starting anyways
Wouldn’t it be better to cut, then start a REAL bulk from 7-8% body fat.

Where do you go from 24%?
You are going to have such bad blood pressure, lipids growing to what? 35%

more body fat with what is already probably bad insulin resistance at 24% which will get worse making real muscle gain further inhibited & sounds like a bad idea. Tren and orals will not fix this.

What is the rationale for these decisions?

Imo if you’re 24% you should just hard cut and go back to the drawing board about a bulk when you are shredded.

 

[Monsters.do.exist]

The rationality for it is my blood tests are perfect , my blood pressure perfect , I don't have any issue gaining muscle and its following my body not a chemical standard because no two peoples body react to things exactly the same idk if mine is because if genetics or just crazy against what science says it's supposed to do but I don't react to tren as most do I'm super tolerant and also this comes from I have already don't this before keep higher body fat build major muscle with it then deep cut. I didn't ask for an analysis of what I'm doing wrong I asked for what I can add to what in doing to improve but I guess some are to concerned with trying to down people then being smart enough to even know what the question is asking lol learn to read bud and understand what is being asked before you type shit just to put your input and name in a forum. But PS thanks for telling me what I didn't ask.

 

[CJ]

The rationality for it is my blood tests are perfect , my blood pressure perfect , I don't have any issue gaining muscle and its following my body not a chemical standard because no two peoples body react to things exactly the same idk if mine is because if genetics or just crazy against what science says it's supposed to do but I don't react to tren as most do I'm super tolerant and also this comes from I have already don't this before keep higher body fat build major muscle with it then deep cut. I didn't ask for an analysis of what I'm doing wrong I asked for what I can add to what in doing to improve but I guess some are to concerned with trying to down people then being smart enough to even know what the question is asking lol learn to read bud and understand what is being asked before you type shit just to put your input and name in a forum. But PS thanks for telling me what I didn't ask.

If you have no problems gaining muscle, as you stated above, I'd subtract and not add. Why add the more harsh/toxic compounds? Why not stick with the relatively safer Test and NPP?

 

[Monsters.do.exist]

Because I want to be an absolute monster size wise before cut instead of doing the see saw method like most if back and forth , personal opinion that's where everyone's blood pressure comes from one extreme to the other instead of get to the size you want then cut off excuse fat. I know there is no proof of that just personal opinion and judging by a friend that took that method as opposed to mine on the same chemicals flip flopping he ended up with bad bloods , bad blood pressure etc mine is absolutely perfect minus hemocrit goes slightly high if I'm not giving blood or me doing blood work every month on the dot. I appericate the input from everyone but helpful info is what I take not an attack on me because my method is different. If this place isn't helping each other instead of trying to destroy everyone then it has lost its purpose.

 

[CJ]

Because I want to be an absolute monster size wise before cut instead of doing the see saw method like most if back and forth , personal opinion that's where everyone's blood pressure comes from one extreme to the other instead of get to the size you want then cut off excuse fat. I know there is no proof of that just personal opinion and judging by a friend that took that method as opposed to mine on the same chemicals flip flopping he ended up with bad bloods , bad blood pressure etc mine is absolutely perfect minus hemocrit goes slightly high if I'm not giving blood or me doing blood work every month on the dot. I appericate the input from everyone but helpful info is what I take not an attack on me because my method is different. If this place isn't helping each other instead of trying to destroy everyone then it has lost its purpose.

Then you want a long period of gaining. Again, I think the relatively safer compounds do that, as you can run them for longer without running into issues.

If you don't like our advice, then by all means don't heed it, but you did ask for it. You do you.

 

[Trenbolonely]

The rationality for it is my blood tests are perfect , my blood pressure perfect , I don't have any issue gaining muscle and its following my body not a chemical standard because no two peoples body react to things exactly the same idk if mine is because if genetics or just crazy against what science says it's supposed to do but I don't react to tren as most do I'm super tolerant and also this comes from I have already don't this before keep higher body fat build major muscle with it then deep cut. I didn't ask for an analysis of what I'm doing wrong I asked for what I can add to what in doing to improve but I guess some are to concerned with trying to down people then being smart enough to even know what the question is asking lol learn to read bud and understand what is being asked before you type shit just to put your input and name in a forum. But PS thanks for telling me what I didn't ask.

based on stats you provided im just trying to help. I’ve never heard of anybody starting a bulking phase at 24% and getting better results than had they started when their body wants to grow. Nobody is trying to tie you down or be smart lmao. You are an adult and can do what you want, I’m trying to give Ilegitimately helpful advice based on all the information you presented, and I don’t think I attacked you at all.

But if you’re going that route I suggest bulking with test, & Eq, save the orals and so on for when you need them. if you want to add tren, you do you

 

[Jfrost89]

Seems extremely toxic and non sustainable for a long duration. IMO your are better off not using orals or tren at all in the offseason bc they hurt appetite and if you can’t eat you won’t grow. I’d personally stick to test with an anabolic like eq, npp, primo or even deca if you have no issues with it. To me running a 20 week cycle of less toxic stuff will result in better and more sustainable progress vs blasting a bunch of different compound for 8-12 weeks.