ChatGPT and I discuss the Arnold Press

[Kraken]

Bodybuilding.com rates the Arnold Press at 8.9/10, which makes it far inferior to several other shoulder exercises. Their top-rated shoulder exercise is the Dumbbell Front Raise to Lateral Raise, a compound exercise with a rating of 9.5/10.

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Well, I guess the issue is settled then.

Wait, what was the issue again?

 

[Santa]

I love this thread. Only because I just had a 5 minute conversation with ChatGPT about what makes a perfect woman. We agreed a nice ass is important and that I am only interested in physical attraction. This is waaaay cheaper than therapy.

 

[1bigun11]

Did a preacher invent Scott curls? Or was Larry Scott a preacher?

And if so, was Superstar Billy Graham also a tele-evangelist, who invented Graham Crackers?

 

[1bigun11]

Did Larry Scott really bulk up on Graham Crackers, while doing the Arnold Press?

 

[1bigun11]

Is it true that before they were called the “Arnold Press” they were called the “Superstar Billy Graham, That’s Right Daddy” press?

 

[The Phoenix]

Try engineering your prompts in a framework and you will observe how accurate the LLM can be when you structure them in a framework with your frame of mind. This allows you to be the expert in knowing what to expect as an outcome. I use a combination of LLM's and find Claude.ai to provide the better output.

{Here's an example from my work:}

[GOAL] Develop a Financial recovery plan.

[CONTEXT] a project manager trying to leverage specific tasks to by assisting in the development of a transitions plan to capture those hours over the course of a period .

[IDENTITY] civil engineering project manager or construction manager

[TIMEFRAME] Month Project

[INPUT]

1​	WEEKLY SCHEDULE
1.1​	Monday - Friday	8:00 AM - 4:00 PM
1.1.1​	WEEKLY HOURS PER ROLE
1.1.1.1​	[ROLES]	[HOURS (Hours/week)]
1.1.1.2​	PROJECT MANAGER	1​
1.1.1.3​	PROECT ENGINEER	1​
1.1.1.4​	DESIGNER	3​
1.1.1.5​	INSPECTOR	8​
1.2​	[ROLES]	[RATE($/HOUR)]
1.2.1​	PROJECT MANAGER	$174.46​
1.2.2​	PROECT ENGINEER	$159.23​
1.2.3​	DESIGNER	$101.59​
1.2.4​	INSPECTOR	$102.40​

[OUTPUT] Bulleted listed with actions and descriptions of ideas and strategies

[GUIDELINES] Project Management Institute, PMBoK , PSMJ project management, New Mexico Board of Licensure for Professional Engineers and Professional Surveyors, Best business practices for financial responsibility

The Riverside Drive Construction Administration Oversight task by Wilson & Company, Inc, (Wilson & Company) requires extending the construction management time to 76-Calendar Day beginning October 1, 2024 to the already 24-remaining calendar days. Wilson & Company team has 7,361.07 left in budget but requires at a minimum of approximately $14,097.86 dollars to operate the construction until December 1, 2024 for the oversight task for the eight (11) weeks of additional time. Wilson & Company has completed $12,860.32 worth of new design work requested by the City of Sunland Park. However, there are $3,986.16 worth of redesign that can be leveraged against the new design work. Should the client not want to leverage the redesign nor the new design, please provide the weekly time effort that the remaining budget of $7,361.07 can cover for the additional 76 calendar days required for construction oversight? Please provide your response in the form of a budget recovery plan and provide a weekly schedule of hours breakdown for each role defined in the input.

 

[Yano]

Try engineering your prompts in a framework and you will observe how accurate the LLM can be when you structure them in a framework with your frame of mind. This allows you to be the expert in knowing what to expect as an outcome. I use a combination of LLM's and find Claude.ai to provide the better output.

{Here's an example from my work:}

[GOAL] Develop a Financial recovery plan.

[CONTEXT] a project manager trying to leverage specific tasks to by assisting in the development of a transitions plan to capture those hours over the course of a period .

[IDENTITY] civil engineering project manager or construction manager

[TIMEFRAME] Month Project

[INPUT]

1​	WEEKLY SCHEDULE
1.1​	Monday - Friday	8:00 AM - 4:00 PM
1.1.1​	WEEKLY HOURS PER ROLE
1.1.1.1​	[ROLES]	[HOURS (Hours/week)]
1.1.1.2​	PROJECT MANAGER	1​
1.1.1.3​	PROECT ENGINEER	1​
1.1.1.4​	DESIGNER	3​
1.1.1.5​	INSPECTOR	8​
1.2​	[ROLES]	[RATE($/HOUR)]
1.2.1​	PROJECT MANAGER	$174.46​
1.2.2​	PROECT ENGINEER	$159.23​
1.2.3​	DESIGNER	$101.59​
1.2.4​	INSPECTOR	$102.40​

[OUTPUT] Bulleted listed with actions and descriptions of ideas and strategies

[GUIDELINES] Project Management Institute, PMBoK , PSMJ project management, New Mexico Board of Licensure for Professional Engineers and Professional Surveyors, Best business practices for financial responsibility

The Riverside Drive Construction Administration Oversight task by Wilson & Company, Inc, (Wilson & Company) requires extending the construction management time to 76-Calendar Day beginning October 1, 2024 to the already 24-remaining calendar days. Wilson & Company team has 7,361.07 left in budget but requires at a minimum of approximately $14,097.86 dollars to operate the construction until December 1, 2024 for the oversight task for the eight (11) weeks of additional time. Wilson & Company has completed $12,860.32 worth of new design work requested by the City of Sunland Park. However, there are $3,986.16 worth of redesign that can be leveraged against the new design work. Should the client not want to leverage the redesign nor the new design, please provide the weekly time effort that the remaining budget of $7,361.07 can cover for the additional 76 calendar days required for construction oversight? Please provide your response in the form of a budget recovery plan and provide a weekly schedule of hours breakdown for each role defined in the input.

oh fuck all that noise

 

[The Phoenix]

oh fuck all that noise

I got the output and asked Claude to prepare a letter to the City Manager (client). He saw it and asked for an agenda for a 30 minute meeting & upon him asking for it; I asked Claude to prepare an agenda for a brief 30 minute meeting. I was knocking out his requests as he was asking for them. These frameworks take care of a lot of work for you.

 

[Yano]

 

[1bigun11]

Nyah. My mom’s not bad, but my sister is better, lol

 

[The Phoenix]

I did not make the OP here to either defend or attack the Arnold Press. As the transcript shows, I wanted to find out if Arnold originated it, and if he did so as a serious exercise or an attention getter. I gave you ChatGPT's answers, which included an incorrect response. Frankly, I am still not convinced one way or the other.

Most respond, not with the intent to understand but to reply.

 

[BD Bodybuilder]

Well, I guess the issue is settled then.

Wait, what was the issue again?

The issue in my original post was the origin of the Arnold Press, ie. did Arnold Schwarzenegger promote it as a serious exercise or simply to draw attention to himself. And despite all the juvenile and irrelevant shit-postings this thread has attracted, IMO that question remains open.

 

[andy]

we got a chatGPT lover here

 

[BD Bodybuilder]

we got a chatGPT lover here

If we did have a "chatGPT lover" here, what difference would that make? NONE. What relevance does this have to the OP? NONE. There, you got some attention.

 

[andy]

If we did have a "chatGPT lover" here, what difference would that make? NONE. What relevance does this have to the OP? NONE. There, you got some attention.

stop using halo and lower your tren buddy. lol

 

[BD Bodybuilder]

stop using halo and lower your tren buddy. lol

More mindless gibberish.

 

[TODAY]

More mindless gibberish.

It's just LLM hallucinations.

All part of the process.

 

[Diesel59]

Why are some guys on bodybuilding forums very aggressive?

There are several reasons why some guys on bodybuilding forums can come across as aggressive:

1. **Competitive nature**: Bodybuilding is often associated with competition and pushing oneself to the limit. This mindset can spill over into online discussions, where some people may feel the need to "dominate" conversations or prove their knowledge or strength.

2. **Ego and identity**: For many, bodybuilding is not just a hobby but a significant part of their identity. If someone challenges their views or knowledge, they may feel personally attacked and respond aggressively to defend their expertise.

3. **Anonymous environment**: Online anonymity can embolden people to behave in ways they might not in real life. Without face-to-face interactions, some individuals feel more comfortable being rude or confrontational.

4. **Insecurity**: Ironically, some aggressive behavior can stem from insecurity. They may feel the need to constantly prove themselves to others or may be overcompensating for their own doubts or struggles.

5. **Testosterone and lifestyle**: Bodybuilding, especially at a competitive level, is associated with intense physical training, strict diets, and sometimes even hormone manipulation (like steroids), which can affect mood and aggression levels.

6. **Cultural tone of forums**: Some bodybuilding forums have a "tough guy" culture, where bluntness and aggression are seen as part of the community's vibe. This can lead members to adopt a more combative tone, especially if they’re trying to fit in.

While these factors might explain some of the aggression, it’s still no excuse for poor behavior, and everyone deserves respect in these spaces.

 

[BD Bodybuilder]

Turns out one of the biggest offenders in this forum just admitted he is not now nor has he ever has been a bodybuilder, but I am confident we can expand your assessment to include assholes who don't pose on stage but still want to be the center of attention.

 

[1bigun11]

But the funny, irrelevant shit-postings are the only reason I come here! LOL