Current Bloodwork 12-4-24

[MxxC82]

Results from current bloodwork taken 12-3-24.

Respected member made a thread that became a sticky and suggested posting your results for feedback so here is my current panel as of 12-3-24 running TestC @ 400mg/wk split.

I am aware of the AI protocol especially per the AI sticky thread, but I want pure honest opinions on how I should combat my current level of E per this panel.. I think my test level is accurate and in line with my dosage, although my estrogen is high, but I just don’t know how relevant it’s level is in conjunction with my test level being 1988…

Nips are slightly sensitive, but no signs of gyno. I have 1mg Adex on hand, I also have some caber but the pills are broke up and I only have a couple that are still fully in contact so I need to weigh one to figure out how much I need to dose with just in case I were to need it until I can restock (sounds stupid I know)

If anyone sees anything else concerning that I don’t, by all means speak up on it!

 

[MxxC82]

Also, I tried uploading the file instead of a picture of it, but the file was showing up blank… hopefully the photo can be viewed.. doing this on my phone so it is a PITA

 

[MxxC82]

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[Yano]

See if we can get one of the smart kids in here that knows how to read that stuff for ya.

 

[MxxC82]

Maybe, it was @TomJ suggestion in the bloodwork basics thread… I think… that was a lot to read so someone else may have said it instead. Thanks @Yano

 

[Yano]

Maybe, it was @TomJ suggestion in the bloodwork basics thread… I think… that was a lot to read so someone else may have said it instead. Thanks @Yano

@TomJ is good people and he's got a big brain , good idea.

 

[Send0]

What is it that you want to know specifically?

If your nips are sensitive then try taking a bit more AI. Personally I don't like adex, so I can't tell you how much to increase it by. I would suggest that if you're taking it twice a week, then add a 3rd dose in there and see if it helps. If your dick stops working or your joints start hurting then stop taking the third dose entirely

If it were me, if my dick works and my nips aren't looking puffy, then I wouldn't bother taking anymore AI. But that's just because I know my own body. Everyone has to figure out how significant are symptoms relative to themselves.

 

[Send0]

Regarding your blood work , you're a bit high on hgb. ,hct, and RBC... But you're already aware of that. If your blood pressure is good and you don't feel like shit then don't worry about it, otherwise if you do feel like shit then consider doing a 1 time blood donation to knock it down.

Don't donate too frequently, as it can deplete your iron pretty quick.

 

[Thrawn]

I don't see anything that would concern me. Just mental notes.

 

[MxxC82]

Regarding your blood work , you're a bit high on hgb. ,hct, and RBC... But you're already aware of that. If your blood pressure is good and you don't feel like shit then don't worry about it, otherwise if you do feel like shit then consider doing a 1 time blood donation to knock it down.

Don't donate too frequently, as it can deplete your iron pretty quick.

I stopped taking my Adex a while back because at my TRT dose I was only at 40 so it wasn’t a concern. I have donated blood twice in the last 5-6 months.. I’m ok with my RBC right now as being slightly high like it is helps the transportation of oxygen, a benefactor for elevated test levels and training from what I gather. I am going to run Adex E3D for two weeks and drop it down to only 2xwk on my dosing days for two weeks and then down to once a week afterwards as I will be coming off test for a bit to clear my receptors and allow levels to drop down before I go visit my TRT doc again in late January.

I think my Adex dosing regimen should be good, but I also value others opinions in this as it provides me useful information and notes for the future.

Only AI I have ever taken previously is Adex, I used caber when I ran a tren cycle about 6 years ago, but that was it. First ever cycle and the few following that one I used pct protocol but that was 14 years ago before I started TRT in my mid/late 30’s.

 

[MxxC82]

I don't see anything that would concern me. Just mental notes.

Thanks for looking at it, I feel partially the same outside of the E being triple digits. Nips are sensitive occasionally not all day every day, but I think the E level over 100 may be causing energy level and strength/training decline, I am increasing calories also to see if that factors in as well and make notes of any changes positive or negative. The panel was cheap insurance and I will continue them before during and after because it is just as important as training and recovery, health topping the chart!

 

[Send0]

I stopped taking my Adex a while back because at my TRT dose I was only at 40 so it wasn’t a concern. I have donated blood twice in the last 5-6 months..

I know the blood donation center says you can do this, but it's still too frequent IMO. Twice a year is best. If you are having this much trouble with keeping RBC, HgB and HCT down the. You should reduce your dose and add another compound that doesn't raise RBC that much.

I’m ok with my RBC right now as being slightly high like it is helps the transportation of oxygen, a benefactor for elevated test levels and training from what I gather.

Elevated RBC is not advantageous. Unless you consider increased risk of blood clots, heart attack, strokes, etc as being an advantage. The amount of increased oxygen will not translate to a performance increase, and can actually result in a decrease in performance due to blood flow being decreased because of the thicker blood.

In addition, it can actually hamper recovery... which might seem counter intuitive.

Again, don't donate for no reason. You should donate if your numbers are excessively out of range or if you have symptoms that suggest you should donate.

Lowering your dosage and adding in a compound that does not effect RBC as much may be a better option.

I am going to run Adex E3D for two weeks and drop it down to only 2xwk on my dosing days for two weeks and then down to once a week afterwards as I will be coming off test for a bit to clear my receptors and allow levels to drop down before I go visit my TRT doc again in late January.

I think my Adex dosing regimen should be good, but I also value others opinions in this as it provides me useful information and notes for the future.

Only AI I have ever taken previously is Adex, I used caber when I ran a tren cycle about 6 years ago, but that was it. First ever cycle and the few following that one I used pct protocol but that was 14 years ago before I started TRT in my mid/late 30’s.

See my previous post... Do you actually have a problem that you experiencing or are you going purely off numbers.

Numbers are useless without symptoms.

 

[Send0]

Thanks for looking at it, I feel partially the same outside of the E being triple digits. Nips are sensitive occasionally not all day every day, but I think the E level over 100 may be causing energy level and strength/training decline,

It's more likely that your elevated RBC, Hgb and HCT are causing this. Estradiol is actually beneficial towards performamce and recovery (as long as you have no e2 related symptoms)

 

[MxxC82]

It's more likely that your elevated RBC, Hgb and HCT are causing this. Estradiol is actually beneficial towards performamce and recovery (as long as you have no e2 related symptoms)

Could be. My main symptom was ole itchy nips and sensitive, nothing constant but there, a little more emotion is to be expected so that’s not a concern, downstairs performance hasn’t fell off but could be better. I wasn’t solely going off the E numbers on the panel, the symptoms and timeframe of being at a higher dosage was the reason behind the panel to see my numbers where I am at, I know my Test is good because I’m using something different and holding on to my TRT prescription also. I am curious to what the elevated E level should look like in comparison to the rest level coming in around 2000…. I know everyone is different

 

[MxxC82]

I know the blood donation center says you can do this, but it's still too frequent IMO. Twice a year is best. If you are having this much trouble with keeping RBC, HgB and HCT down the. You should reduce your dose and add another compound that doesn't raise RBC that much.


Elevated RBC is not advantageous. Unless you consider increased risk of blood clots, heart attack, strokes, etc as being an advantage. The amount of increased oxygen will not translate to a performance increase, and can actually result in a decrease in performance due to blood flow being decreased because of the thicker blood.

In addition, it can actually hamper recovery... which might seem counter intuitive.

Again, don't donate for no reason. You should donate if your numbers are excessively out of range or if you have symptoms that suggest you should donate.

Lowering your dosage and adding in a compound that does not effect RBC as much may be a better option.


See my previous post... Do you actually have a problem that you experiencing or are you going purely off numbers.

Numbers are useless without symptoms.

Noted on all accounts. I know it is not good to donate often, first time I donated this year was after three months back on TRT and doc suggested it as count was high in his opinion, second time was me going on feel that I suspected it was high again after doubling my Test dosage to cycle range and also adding in some NPP for a short t period, this panel was taken less than a few weeks after the last donation. I dont think that those levels are dangerously high, but I agree with you on extremely high levels of RBC.

Yes and no, I am having some signs of high estrogen, some that I mentioned you suggested could be related to higher RBC and I am reading in to that, I did not add iron to that panel so even though I supplement with iron it could be on the lower side of normal and causing a little fatigue as well. I have started increasing my red meat intake to help boost my iron a little also.

You mentioned other compounds as well, what would you consider options for an addition to a cycle where as I would not run a higher dose of Test?

 

[Send0]

Noted on all accounts. I know it is not good to donate often, first time I donated this year was after three months back on TRT and doc suggested it as count was high in his opinion, second time was me going on feel that I suspected it was high again after doubling my Test dosage to cycle range and also adding in some NPP for a short t period, this panel was taken less than a few weeks after the last donation. I dont think that those levels are dangerously high, but I agree with you on extremely high levels of RBC.

Yes and no, I am having some signs of high estrogen, some that I mentioned you suggested could be related to higher RBC and I am reading in to that, I did not add iron to that panel so even though I supplement with iron it could be on the lower side of normal and causing a little fatigue as well. I have started increasing my red meat intake to help boost my iron a little also.

You mentioned other compounds as well, what would you consider options for an addition to a cycle where as I would not run a higher dose of Test?

You don't need to add iron into the panel right off the bat. You can interpret whether you have a potential iron issue looming by looking at things like MCV, MCH, MCHC, and RDW. Depending on where the levels are at will determine if it's beneficial to get a serum iron and ferritin test.

For the lazy approach, you can just look at MCV, but my preference is to look at those other biomarkers (MCH, MCHC, RDW) together with MCV.

 

[Send0]

I had to go back and look at your blood work closely; my eyes aren't working well so it takes me a while and sometimes I make mistakes while reading because of it.

Based on your panels, my initial thought is that you have zero issues with iron at the moment.

 

[MxxC82]

I had to go back and look at your blood work closely; my eyes aren't working well so it takes me a while and sometimes I make mistakes while reading because of it.

Based on your panels, my initial thought is that you have zero issues with iron at the moment.

If you are like me and squint to read, especially if you had to zoom in on the photo copy of the panel I pasted, I feel your pain brother!

 

[Send0]

If you are like me and squint to read, especially if you had to zoom in on the photo copy of the panel I pasted, I feel your pain brother!

That's exactly what I had to do. Up until about August I had perfect 20/20 vision. Then one day I woke up and I was seeing double (kind of, hard to explain. Best I can describe it is that it's similar to astigmatism).

After seeing doctors for a few months I finally have an answer. It seems I developed posterior subcapsular cataracts. It's not common, and it has rapid onset and rapid progression. My vision today is significantly worse than it was on August, and I noticed further degradation about once every 2 weeks.

There are a few things that can be related to it, but ultimately doctors don't know what caused this type of cataract. It also seems to only effect younger people (e.g. ~50yo and younger). At the moment reading is very difficult for me... Everything is also very clouded. I can't even make out the details on my wife's face from 5ft away anymore.. her face just looks like a blur to me.

Doctor said I'll eventually go blind, and I can definitely tell she was being 100% truthful because I see it happening in real time.

I'm hoping to have eye surgery in January to have the clouded lenses in my eyes removed and replaced with artificial ones. Still waiting to be called back to schedule my surgery date

 

[ATLRigger]

Results from current bloodwork taken 12-3-24.

Respected member made a thread that became a sticky and suggested posting your results for feedback so here is my current panel as of 12-3-24 running TestC @ 400mg/wk split.

I am aware of the AI protocol especially per the AI sticky thread, but I want pure honest opinions on how I should combat my current level of E per this panel.. I think my test level is accurate and in line with my dosage, although my estrogen is high, but I just don’t know how relevant it’s level is in conjunction with my test level being 1988…

Nips are slightly sensitive, but no signs of gyno. I have 1mg Adex on hand, I also have some caber but the pills are broke up and I only have a couple that are still fully in contact so I need to weigh one to figure out how much I need to dose with just in case I were to need it until I can restock (sounds stupid I know)

If anyone sees anything else concerning that I don’t, by all means speak up on it!

Hemoglobin high at 18.2.
I literally just left the blood doctor’s office an hour ago.
My 250cc blood dump (first ever, and bravest thing I’ve done since getting sober 6 years ago) brought mine down to 17 from 19.
Doc says 11 is the ideal level.