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[leviata370]

No, I understand you. But you can't keep throwing drugs at the body to keep a linear rate of fat loss, like you suggested by throwing ephedrine or yohimbine would do.

The MOA of DNP has to do with mitochondrial decoupling.

Where we are having an argument is that you suggest that people could get to 5% body fat with DNP, which isn't inherently wrong. Where as I'm saying people don't bother with using DNP beyond a certain leanness level because the returns are diminished so much that the risk to reward ratio just isn't there. The body is under so much stress during contest prep, and the person is already so lean, that it isn't worth it.

Was that the discussion? I thought it was about DNP's mechanism of action. As for this other discussion, I agree with you, reaching a certain level the infernal collaterals are not worth it, being better to take other longer paths. And on the issue of throwing more drugs around the problem, it's like I said, heartless people.

 

[Send0]

Was that the discussion? I thought it was about DNP's mechanism of action. As for this other discussion, I agree with you, reaching a certain level the infernal collaterals are not worth it, being better to take other longer paths. And on the issue of throwing more drugs around the problem, it's like I said, heartless people.

You started an argument with @TomJ about competitors using DNP to get to 5% body fat.

 

[leviata370]

You started an argument with @TomJ about competitors using DNP to get to 5% body fat.

Negative, he said he knows numerous competitors who got to 5% fat without using dinitrophenol. Retorting my answer to brother bundy where I said that there is no more efficient fat burning method than dinitrophenol. So I reaffirmed that DNP is the fastest possible way to lose weight, and that I was aware that many reach 5% BF without DNP. The initial discussion was about the monstrous efficiency above any diet and any other substance that induces weight loss.

 

[metsfan4life]

@Beti ona or @metsfan4life or @HighHeater ... care to weigh in on the arguments made by leviata?

i would but reading the next couple of comments it seems like it just keeps going back from A to Z and back to A and i cant keep up. ill blame it on my sugar being low from DNP but its absolutely never going to be linear. there will always be a bell curve, just like most things. as Send mentioned... you have less body fat, you're obviously not going to burn the same amount. but thats not to say that someon with excessive body fat is going to burn double or triple bc they have more fat. thre might be some language barrier issues so im trying to put it together from both sides there. the more fat, the more likely you will burn more than the average user but not necessarily true. as Send also said... if you're down on 8% and trying to get 6%, DNP might work as a helping hand but with the sides that most people get, i would think it might just simply cause more harm as the increase in body temp is just going to be so overwhelming.

 

[Beti ona]

DNP has diminishing returns; the leaner you are, the less of an effect that it has. This is probably why competitors don't bother using it. The side effects and risk profile just aren't worth it.

Competitors use a lot of compounds designed to burn fat, either directly or indirectly, because by creating massive muscle mass, energy expenditure skyrockets, in addition to the fact that they can train with a greater volume and frequency than someone natural or with a standard cycle.

Theoretically, they are also in the most favorable genetic spectrum for staying lean.

That's why they don't need DNP although I'm sure many use it or have used it.

 

[Beti ona]

if you're down on 8% and trying to get 6%, DNP might work as a helping hand but with the sides that most people get, i would think it might just simply cause more harm as the increase in body temp is just going to be so overwhelming.

If it's someone who didn't use DNP during the whole contest prep, it could be a big ace in the hole to throw him in the last 3-4 weeks. Many suggest that this is the best way to use it.

At the end of the day, it is not that DNP makes you more miserable, it is the whole process that makes you miserable, taking your body away from its state of health or ideal functioning, that is why appear the stress, insomnia, cortisol, irritability, muscle pain, hunger and anxiety, etc..

 

[CJ]

What is the best DNP source? Thanks

We DO NOT ask for sources here, it's against our rules, which you should take a moment to read.

Please do not ask again.

 

[TomJReadsTheShillForum]

If it's someone who didn't use DNP during the whole contest prep, it could be a big ace in the hole to throw him in the last 3-4 weeks. Many suggest that this is the best way to use it.

no.

theres a reason why every single coach that has a single clue what they are talking about would LAUGH at this sugestion

 

[Agamemnon]

Hi! I am new and also interested in DNP. I’m 5’2 and just under 120lbs (also a woman) and have been reading up on dosage and effects. It looks like 4.3mg/kg was the lowest lethal dose which would put us around 200mg. My plan was to take half of that (100mg) and plan it safe. It doesn’t seem worth the risk to take more!

 

[thepcushion]

this may be one of the dumbest things i heard i a long time

I agree man. That mindset is just horrible.

 

[Gadawg]

DNP is for lazy, undisciplined slobs and middle aged women whose husbands just left them for somebody less fat.