DNP not “feeling it”

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been on 400mg DNP since day 1
day 4 just began and taken first dose of 200mg (i’ve split dose 200mg in morning and 200mg in evening)
i think i feel slightly hotter in bed and maybe a tiny bit hotter after carbs, but both are not bad at all.
in feel like i should be feeling worse lol.
is my stuff bunk or underdosed?
 

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I don't think you've built up enough in your system yet. Day 5 you may feel it. Just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean its not working.

If you never did it, 400 is a high starting point.
 
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I don't think you've built up enough in your system yet. Day 5 you may feel it. Just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean its not working.

If you never did it, 400 is a high starting point.
think i may be feeling slightly hotter today, but at this point i can’t tell if its placebo.

does high starting point really have an affect on anything tho? like it’s not a lethal dose for anyone.

i also got 2 questions i can’t really seem to find the answer to. dnp supposedly increase dnp by 11% per 100mg. is this the increase from the actual dose taken, or is is based on the build up? like eventually there would be 800mg in system for example when taking 400mg dosage daily. so would the increase on that day still be 44% or would it then be 88% since there is technically the 800mg in system, not 400mg.
the other question was , i see some say that the use of dnp increases the calorie expenditure from doing activities, not only the bmr. any truth to that? i will do cardio regardless, just wondering.

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think i may be feeling slightly hotter today, but at this point i can’t tell if its placebo.

does high starting point really have an affect on anything tho? like it’s not a lethal dose for anyone.

i also got 2 questions i can’t really seem to find the answer to. dnp supposedly increase dnp by 11% per 100mg. is this the increase from the actual dose taken, or is is based on the build up? like eventually there would be 800mg in system for example when taking 400mg dosage daily. so would the increase on that day still be 44% or would it then be 88% since there is technically the 800mg in system, not 400mg.
the other question was , i see some say that the use of dnp increases the calorie expenditure from doing activities, not only the bmr. any truth to that? i will do cardio regardless, just wondering.

thanks

Lowest recorded letal dose was 4.3 mg/kg. So for a 100kg/220lb person, that's 430 mgs.

 
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Lowest recorded letal dose was 4.3 mg/kg. So for a 100kg/220lb person, that's 430 mgs.
they could have had heart complications etc so i’m not sure that’s an accurate value to go by
 

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i saw u comment in a few dnp threads so thought ur knowledgeable on the subject.
I can't tell you if your DNP is bunk or not. Everyone has a different reaction. Hell, one DNP cycle can feel completely different from a previous DNP cycle.

Regarding lethality, everyone has a different dose that is lethal to them; this is regardless of any existing co-morbities. Once DNP is in your system there is nothing you can do to counter act it. Not even hospitals can counteract DNP sides that can lead to death. This is one area where you don't want to fuck around and find out.

Use the lowest dose for at least 10 days before considering bumping up a level. Do not confuse my statement as being in support of higher doses... I'm just saying it you're going to do it then wait at least 10 days on your current low dose.

Eat in a good caloric deficit, cut out carbs, do cardio and lift hard, and you will lose a decent amount of weight even on low dose DNP. If you don't lose weight then it will be because you're out eating the DNP.... It's always diet that bites people in the ass, not the drug or low dosage.
 

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Also, be careful when you come off DNP. You can easily rebound and regain the weight, or worse... Gain more weight than.before you ever did DNP
 
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I can't tell you if your DNP is bunk or not. Everyone has a different reaction. Hell, one DNP cycle can feel completely different from a previous DNP cycle.

Regarding lethality, everyone has a different dose that is lethal to them; this is regardless of any existing co-morbities. Once DNP is in your system there is nothing you can do to counter act it. Not even hospitals can counteract DNP sides that can lead to death. This is one area where you don't want to fuck around and find out.

Use the lowest dose for at least 10 days before considering bumping up a level. Do not confuse my statement as being in support of higher doses... I'm just saying it you're going to do it then wait at least 10 days on your current low dose.

Eat in a good caloric deficit, cut out carbs, do cardio and lift hard, and you will lose a decent amount of weight even on low dose DNP. If you don't lose weight then it will be because you're out eating the DNP.... It's always diet that bites people in the ass, not the drug or low dosage.
Also, be careful when you come off DNP. You can easily rebound and regain the weight, or worse... Gain more weight than.before you ever did DNP
yes, i’m good w caloric restriction and have the willpower to maintain a large deficit. i had 1 cheat day yesterday since i was maintaining 1200 -1500 cals for 2 weeks at that point. so hopefully will not rebound. with dnp i was hoping i could maybe slightly increase my caloric intake, maybe to my natural bmr, but keep thinking of potential fat loss gains i leave on the table while doing that.
do you have any knowledge in regards to these two questions? not a problem if not.
i will decrease my dosage to 200mg, even though at 400mg i can withstand without any problems so far and it’s been 4 days so i should be close to peak dose, (was hotter today and was slightly hotter on all nights but noting any where near what people have described in terms in intensity etc)
here are the questions i was referring to:
also got 2 questions i can’t really seem to find the answer to. dnp supposedly increase dnp by 11% per 100mg. is this the increase from the actual dose taken, or is is based on the build up? like eventually there would be 800mg in system for example when taking 400mg dosage daily. so would the increase on that day still be 44% or would it then be 88% since there is technically the 800mg in system, not 400mg.
the other question was , i see some say that the use of dnp increases the calorie expenditure from doing activities, not only the bmr. any truth to that? i will do cardio regardless, just wondering
 

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do you have any knowledge in regards to these two questions? not a problem if not.
I've already addressed that question. Cut the carbs, and eat in a good caloric deficit. Do not increase calories just because you're on DNP, that's what lazy people just want to eat and lose weight. The weight loss won't be as good, and your setting yourself up for rebound weight gain.

Everyone always acts like there's some super secret process or diet for DNP... there isn't. This isn't complicated. Eat less, cut carbs, and slowly add calories back in when you finish DNP to avoid rebound weight.
 
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I've already addressed that question. Cut the carbs, and eat in a good caloric deficit. Do not increase calories just because you're on DNP, that's what lazy people just want to eat and lose weight. The weight loss won't be as good, and your setting yourself up for rebound weight gain.

This isn't complicated. Eat less, cut carbs, and slowly add calories back in when you finish DNP to avoid rebound weight.
what’s the benefit of cutting carbs? i hear some say u should eat a lot and some said keto. does eating carbs on dnp cause height amounts of water retention?
 

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what’s the benefit of cutting carbs? i hear some say u should eat a lot and some said keto. does eating carbs on dnp cause height amounts of water retention?
It has to do with how DNP creates mitochondrial decoupling, making the ability to process carbs for energy very difficult. This manifests itself as heat as a side effect. It can also create cravings for more and more carbs as you go further into the DNP cycle, and it can impact sleep.

Anyone who says you should eat a lot of carbs is an idiot. There are some posts here about eating cake while on DNP, however that person was joking... they don't seriously advocate for eating carbs while using it.

Cutting carbs also changes the fuel source your body will utilize (fats vs carbs).

I eat high protein, low fat, and low carb when I used DNP in the past. I never needed to be on DNP very long with this approach... Usually 10 days, up to 14 days at most. Weight loss was significant and effort to achieve it was low when all things were factored in.

Anyway, good luck. I'm done answering DNP questions for now.
 

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I really don’t understand a lot of these recent posts. Just bc you don’t feel it at 200 or 400 or whatever bc “other people say …” is not the way to run dnp and really makes ya wonder if you did enough research. Some people feel dnp after 2 days, some people after 4 6 8. Some people 200mg run is like other people’s 600mg run. Then again, some 200mg run for the same person may feel like their last 400. I used to be able to run 600 comfortably, now I’m lucky if I make 2 weeks at 400. There’s not an absolute with dnp , the only thing you need to keep at hand is everything else you can: diet, training, water, nutrients… and maybe some toilet paper. Don’t be comparing yourself sweating or soaking the bed based on things… you’re only going to overthink things and complicate the shit out of your run. One other thing a lot of new people do - stop looking at the fucking mirror and scale. Get on at the beginning, maybe halfway thru if you wanna know if you’re one who loses as you go or retains water and then drops, and then about 5 days after. But those days you come off, don’t be an idiot and start eating like you used to… you’ll rebound faster than you added the weight initially
 

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