Do you count the smith bar as extra weight?

[buck]

2 different smiths can have a different counterbalance system and friction coefficient. So knowing the real weight would be different for different machines. But if my ego wants to get stroked and i add a few pounds for the bar i don't get excited from the bigger number as i know it really isn't accurate.

 

[MG_87]

Never use a Smith anymore, but when I did I never counted the bar

 

[JeffGoldblumLips]

2 plates on a smith machine is 90lbs. Never bother adding the bar.