First go at using some hGh

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I just picked up some generic hGh. I thought I would start with 2IU a day doing the injection before bed. I plan in 2 weeks bumping to 4IU/day. I know it's not pharmacy grade, but I am curious about others' experiences. Currently, I have enough to run up to 80 days under my current plan. I am running some gear, which is why I decided to run it now. Everything I read states that using gear will yield better results because hgh alone isn't as effective by itself .
 
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Going to need more than 80 days worth to physically notice a difference.
Yes I do realize that. I plan on purchasing more after I set some more cash aside. Do you think there is a major difference between two and four international units
 

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Yes I do realize that. I plan on purchasing more after I set some more cash aside. Do you think there is a major difference between two and four international units
yes... 2 units is basically a therapeutic replacement dose (e.g. normal range). 4-5 units will usually push your IGF outside the reference range.

If you're taking it for just better rest and recovery then 2 units is fine. 4-5 units is growth territory... keep in mind that everyone's mileage will vary and that this is just generally speaking.
 

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yes... 2 units is basically a therapeutic replacement dose (e.g. normal range). 4-5 units will usually push your IGF outside the reference range.

If you're taking it for just better rest and recovery then 2 units is fine. 4-5 units is growth territory... keep in mind that everyone's mileage will vary and that this is just generally speaking.
Pretty much sums it up. Age will also play a factor. Only caution is after 80 days you may think why continue since you haven't really noticed anything. What I'm curious about is can we quantify hGH and MK 677 dose equivalency? I would love to see some studies and field experiments directly comparing the two. At one point I was taking them together but I was so lethargic I could not function I literally slept all day everyday but that is also the same time I discovered my thyroid issue specifically hashimoto's. So essentially I don't have enough data to compare the two to potentially say one may be better for you than the other. I'm sure the date is out there.
 
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yes... 2 units is basically a therapeutic replacement dose (e.g. normal range). 4-5 units will usually push your IGF outside the reference range.

If you're taking it for just better rest and recovery then 2 units is fine. 4-5 units is growth territory... keep in mind that everyone's mileage will vary and that this is just generally speaking.
How big of a difference do you think the jump is from 2 to 4? I'm currently on 2 and I've noticed I can't stay awake past 10 and I wake up feeling better. Currently just on trt of test c at 250mg pinned on Sundays
I take my 2 ius in the am and by end of day I'm very tired I was thinking of splitting it or would it be better to pin at night? Would my sleepiness get worse with 4? I'm 37 6'1 260lbs. Thanks for any info

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If you plan to go much above 2iu or stay on for an extended period, it'd be a good idea to start thinking about how to keep your glucose control/insulin sensitivity in check.
 

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How big of a difference do you think the jump is from 2 to 4? I'm currently on 2 and I've noticed I can't stay awake past 10 and I wake up feeling better. Currently just on trt of test c at 250mg pinned on Sundays
I take my 2 ius in the am and by end of day I'm very tired I was thinking of splitting it or would it be better to pin at night? Would my sleepiness get worse with 4? I'm 37 6'1 260lbs. Thanks for any info

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I get used to the sleepiness after a while, and normalize. Dosage doesn't seem to make it any better or worse.

What does increase as the dosage also increases is the potential for side effects. Nerve pain, swelling, water retention, joint stress and pain, etc. Different people can handle a different amount of GH.

My tolerance seems to be at about 5-6iu. Anything above that and I start getting nerve pain and joint pain. Other people may have a higher or lower tolerance than I do.

In terms of splitting your dosage... I mean you can but it's not necessary. If I'm only taking 2iu then I don't see the point of splitting it.
 
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I get used to the sleepiness after a while, and normalize. Dosage doesn't seem to make it any better or worse.

What does increase as the dosage also increases is the potential for side effects. Nerve pain, swelling, water retention, joint stress and pain, etc. Different people can handle a different amount of GH.

My tolerance seems to be at about 5-6iu. Anything above that and I start getting nerve pain and joint pain. Other people may have a higher or lower tolerance than I do.

In terms of splitting your dosage... I mean you can but it's not necessary. If I'm only taking 2iu then I don't see the point of splitting it.
Thanks. I just started my gh again. Last time around I was cycling so the sleepiness wasn't too big of an issue. But you answered my question on dosage not effecting that more so I'll give it a try later on. I was planning on bumping it up before a cycle and for a little bit after cycle and just doing 2ius on the normal 5days a week. Thanks for the info. 2 friends of mine are super sensitive and get pain on just 1iu. I haven't ever taken enough to get any sides. Thanks for the info

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2iu seems like a waste of money if you’re going to only do replacement long term unless you have a legitimate problem regarding gh production imo. Just my 2cents

That being said 2iu is a good starting point, then slowly increase it on a weekly/ 2 week basis to an enhancement dose.

Splitting the dosage is not going to make a noticeable difference in the effects of muscle building.

Splitting it for fasted cardio on a cut is different for weight loss if that’s what you’re doing and considered helpful by some folks.

Like others chimed in dosage and sides are different for everyone, and monitor your blood glucose. I don’t get sides or abnormal blood glucose at 10iu per day but I get waterlogged to the point of being unable to bench press on Mk677 with very small dose, so it’s really an individual response to each compound .
 

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I took 4 in morning and 12.5 mk677 at night. Lost the ability to function so I dropped the MK completely and take 4iu at night. The sleepiness side effect was so bad for me I'm prescribed Adderall and nuvigil and I couldn't stay awake. But again that was with undiagnosed hashimoto's disease so I don't know how much of a factor that played into it.
 
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Taking pharma hgh is a waste of time. Ur fine with generic if it's good.

2 iu is a good starting point. I'd stay there for 4 to 6 weeks.. Then do 3 iu for 4 to 6 weeks.. Then 4 iu for 4 to 6 weeks. Then after 4iu I'd add 1iu pre workout on lifting days and on off days I'd take it pre fasted cardio for 4 to 6 weeks. And a 2nd iu preworkout/pre cardio for 4 to 6 weeks. By the end Ur taking 6iu total per day. 2iu pre cardio or pre workout and 4iu pre bed.

You won't notice anything without taking testosterone with Ur hgh. U need test to convert to estrogen and raise Ur levels high enough to convert the gh to igf1.

Secondly you'll want additional pure anabolic to aid in hypertrophy. Masteron is Ur best choice here but primo could work also but it'll skew your estrogen levels so it's tricky back and forth with blood work get it right if using primo

That's as simple as it gets.

GH is useless without test and a pure anabolic
 

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Taking pharma hgh is a waste of time. Ur fine with generic if it's good.

2 iu is a good starting point. I'd stay there for 4 to 6 weeks.. Then do 3 iu for 4 to 6 weeks.. Then 4 iu for 4 to 6 weeks. Then after 4iu I'd add 1iu pre workout on lifting days and on off days I'd take it pre fasted cardio for 4 to 6 weeks. And a 2nd iu preworkout/pre cardio for 4 to 6 weeks. By the end Ur taking 6iu total per day. 2iu pre cardio or pre workout and 4iu pre bed.

You won't notice anything without taking testosterone with Ur hgh. U need test to convert to estrogen and raise Ur levels high enough to convert the gh to igf1.

Secondly you'll want additional pure anabolic to aid in hypertrophy. Masteron is Ur best choice here but primo could work also but it'll skew your estrogen levels so it's tricky back and forth with blood work get it right if using primo

That's as simple as it gets.

GH is useless without test and a pure anabolic

What exactly is the point in taking GH as a pre-workout, since it takes 2-4 hours after injection to start doing it's thing? 🤔

Even before fasted cardio, if you don't take it 2-4 hours prior to that cardio, you're not accomplishing what you're intending.
 

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What exactly is the point in taking GH as a pre-workout, since it takes 2-4 hours after injection to start doing it's thing? 🤔

Even before fasted cardio, if you don't take it 2-4 hours prior to that cardio, you're not accomplishing what you're intending.
Especially if you experience acute fatigue after GH administration
 
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2iu seems like a waste of money if you’re going to only do replacement long term unless you have a legitimate problem regarding gh production imo. Just my 2cents

That being said 2iu is a good starting point, then slowly increase it on a weekly/ 2 week basis to an enhancement dose.

Splitting the dosage is not going to make a noticeable difference in the effects of muscle building.

Splitting it for fasted cardio on a cut is different for weight loss if that’s what you’re doing and considered helpful by some folks.

Like others chimed in dosage and sides are different for everyone, and monitor your blood glucose. I don’t get sides or abnormal blood glucose at 10iu per day but I get waterlogged to the point of being unable to bench press on Mk677 with very small dose, so it’s really an individual response to each compound .
10iu's a day? I'd say that's a big waste but that's just my 2 cents from the looks of it
 

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10iu's a day? I'd say that's a big waste but that's just my 2 cents from the looks of it

You are supposed to do 10iu before a test to determine quality of hgh in a blood assay. I’m just mentioning it to show people respond differently to quantity, and that 2iu shouldn’t really make any appreciable change in some health markers.

personally I use 5iu and have been for approximately the last year, and agree that in my current state it would be wasteful to use more.

That being said plenty of people run 10iu though. 10iu is pretty standard for some more advanced protocols afaik but it’s 100% not necessary for a beginner.
 
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Amazing sleep with that gh
 

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I just picked up some generic hGh. I thought I would start with 2IU a day doing the injection before bed. I plan in 2 weeks bumping to 4IU/day. I know it's not pharmacy grade, but I am curious about others' experiences. Currently, I have enough to run up to 80 days under my current plan. I am running some gear, which is why I decided to run it now. Everything I read states that using gear will yield better results because hgh alone isn't as effective by itself .
how did your experiment turn out?
 
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