Help me lose the rest of this fat (please)

TomJ

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*Anything past 24+ hours in a fast, and your natural gh levels skyrocket something wild like 1800%, which puts you in a muscle preservation mode while your body is eating your entire BMR's worth of calories + whatever exercise calories you burn + whatever stim (ie clen) burns off you.


this is incorrect.
Its popular buzz speach by the IM fasting crowd but its been disproven literally countless times in the literature.

Acute hormonal fluctuations have ZERO impact on performance metrics.

IM fasting has absolutely, unquestionably, zero benefit in fat loss beyond the caloric restriction
 

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this is incorrect.
Its popular buzz speach by the IM fasting crowd but its been disproven literally countless times in the literature.

Acute hormonal fluctuations have ZERO impact on performance metrics.

IM fasting has absolutely, unquestionably, zero benefit in fat loss beyond the caloric restriction

My personal experience, and the experiences of many others, begs to differ.

There is always some kind of particular "study" missing tons of vital variables that comes along to try and disprove something.

Genetics, gear and stimulants - all critical variables missing from these studies - factor in heavily.

But what do i know? I'm just some guy that lost over 30% bf in 18 months with minimal cardio.
 

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My personal experience, and the experiences of many others, begs to differ.
Your personal anecdote is first of all meaningless, your perception of what made a difference is wrong. plain and simple. if you equated calories across the week you would have seen better progress. full stop.
its not a matter of debate, its been studied ad-nauseum at this point.

There is always some kind of particular "study" missing tons of vital variables that comes along to try and disprove something.
like every single study that shows a benefit to intermitent fasting
Genetics, gear and stimulants - all critical variables missing from these studies - factor in heavily.
none of which we are talking about, and none of which interact with being in a fasted state.
But what do i know? I'm just some guy that lost over 30% bf in 18 months with minimal cardio.
by not eating and taking an extremely harsh thermogenic. are you honestly surprised?
go figure, eat zero food and take dnp and you lose weight, what a revalation, the weightloss industry is saved
 

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My personal experience, and the experiences of many others, begs to differ.

There is always some kind of particular "study" missing tons of vital variables that comes along to try and disprove something.

Genetics, gear and stimulants - all critical variables missing from these studies - factor in heavily.

But what do i know? I'm just some guy that lost over 30% bf in 18 months with minimal cardio.
Do you coach? If so, can I please sign up? You know all the secrets!
 

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Fasting works because it makes you eat less by restricting your intake window. It’s not some magical way to lose weight.

You could accomplish the same thing by not fasting and just eating less throughout the day…

These fasting cultists are more annoying than keto people or vegans, I swear.
 

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