injectable aminos

[hurray789]

hey, im new to homebrewing and would like to hear your guys' recipes for injectable carnitine.

have any of you tried making your own tri-amino brew( that is arginine, citrulline, and ornithine)?

would love to put all 4 aminos in one brew/injection. need some guidance on to how?

as a side note. if this is all im making is it worthwhile for me to get a magnetic stirrer? a hot plate? or its combo?

 

[Thrawn]

As far as the hot plate depending on the type you get it can come as a combo so if you want a future proof yourself you can. A magnetic stir is freaking awesome just make sure you use the right size stir bar compared to your beaker size. I would invest the money and get a digital hot plate, temperature of hot plates and fluctuate very quickly and then cause uneven heating. I personally prefer round bottom boiling flasks but then you need to get a specialized heating mantle for those or you could use a pot of boiling water, but if you use a pot of boiling water Erlenmeyer Flasks would offer more stability same with a beaker but you have more chance for water to enter the beaker.
I am 99% sure I have a few amino injectable recipes in the homebrew section.
As far as how many can you combine depends on the weight, dose, solvent, solute, used. Are you trying to make a MIC + solution.

 

[hurray789]

well for the time being im only intrested in brewing aminos. would love to have 800mg l-carnitine+aminos.
was not thinking about mic+, but i dont see a reason why not. im still looking into what what combos i want.
seen this recipe floating around


"500mg/ml L-Carnitine
100mg/ml L-Arginine
100mg/ml L-Citrulline
100mg/ml L-Orinthine

L-Carnitine has lots of benefits but it’s main uses are easier use of fat for fuel and potential to up-regulate androgen receptors

Here is my recipe:

25g l carnitine
5g arginine
5g citrulline
5g orinthine
20ml distilled water
0.5 ml benzyl alcohol"


this really seems good to me. i just dont know if the recipe is accurate or how much ml does this recipe end up making.

currently at the stage of buying ingredients and equipment.
ive seen people suggest getting l-arginine hcl powder, but i have l-arginine(free-form) powder. is that okay?



as for mic+ solution is it something you can clearly see if it goes bad?

"Injectable Glutathione + MIC blend

This one is for liver health, general antioxidant health, and potential boost in fat burning.

300mg/ml Glutathione
40mg/ml Methionine
40mg/ml Choline
40mg/ml Inositol

I take a half ml of this every night before bed

My recipe is:
15g glutathione
2g methionine
2g Inositol
2g Choline
34ml distilled water
0.5ml benzyl alcohol"

thinking of not including gluathione as i want a clear solution. user reported that it create a cloudly milky solution. dont know how to adjust recipe.


injectable choline is something im intresting as well and will have to do more research on it. (anything in general to help with cognition, as i have to study for big exams)...

heard people buying b12 shots for horses on amazon. what do you think about that?

i tried searching for your posts. and i've seen you respond to questions posted here. but for some reason when i search and put your name in the search bar in "member" and any of the following terms carnitine, recipe, choline, mic, grams, they are zero results. in fact when i search your name and only in this forum (Chemical Conversion and Homebrewing) with no terms. i only see 3 posts( this being one of them). can you please direct me to your posts or tell me how to better search.

when it comes to the magnetic stir bar and beakers. ive seen people suggest boiling in water for first use..

but ive also seen people suggest washing with soap(dawn) and water(some say tap others say distilled). and than soaking with isoproyl alcohol 70+% and than rinsing with distilled water..

How do you clean your beakers for use? is the 2nd method sufficient. im really curious how do you clean the magnetic stir bar? if soaking the beaker and bar together. how do you drain/pour the liquid(alcohol and distilled water) without touching the bar and potentially contaminating it

 

[someguy22922]

well for the time being im only intrested in brewing aminos. would love to have 800mg l-carnitine+aminos.
was not thinking about mic+, but i dont see a reason why not. im still looking into what what combos i want.
seen this recipe floating around


"500mg/ml L-Carnitine
100mg/ml L-Arginine
100mg/ml L-Citrulline
100mg/ml L-Orinthine

L-Carnitine has lots of benefits but it’s main uses are easier use of fat for fuel and potential to up-regulate androgen receptors

Here is my recipe:

25g l carnitine
5g arginine
5g citrulline
5g orinthine
20ml distilled water
0.5 ml benzyl alcohol"


this really seems good to me. i just dont know if the recipe is accurate or how much ml does this recipe end up making.

currently at the stage of buying ingredients and equipment.
ive seen people suggest getting l-arginine hcl powder, but i have l-arginine(free-form) powder. is that okay?



as for mic+ solution is it something you can clearly see if it goes bad?

"Injectable Glutathione + MIC blend

This one is for liver health, general antioxidant health, and potential boost in fat burning.

300mg/ml Glutathione
40mg/ml Methionine
40mg/ml Choline
40mg/ml Inositol

I take a half ml of this every night before bed

My recipe is:
15g glutathione
2g methionine
2g Inositol
2g Choline
34ml distilled water
0.5ml benzyl alcohol"

thinking of not including gluathione as i want a clear solution. user reported that it create a cloudly milky solution. dont know how to adjust recipe.


injectable choline is something im intresting as well and will have to do more research on it. (anything in general to help with cognition, as i have to study for big exams)...

heard people buying b12 shots for horses on amazon. what do you think about that?

i tried searching for your posts. and i've seen you respond to questions posted here. but for some reason when i search and put your name in the search bar in "member" and any of the following terms carnitine, recipe, choline, mic, grams, they are zero results. in fact when i search your name and only in this forum (Chemical Conversion and Homebrewing) with no terms. i only see 3 posts( this being one of them). can you please direct me to your posts or tell me how to better search.

when it comes to the magnetic stir bar and beakers. ive seen people suggest boiling in water for first use..

but ive also seen people suggest washing with soap(dawn) and water(some say tap others say distilled). and than soaking with isoproyl alcohol 70+% and than rinsing with distilled water..

How do you clean your beakers for use? is the 2nd method sufficient. im really curious how do you clean the magnetic stir bar? if soaking the beaker and bar together. how do you drain/pour the liquid(alcohol and distilled water) without touching the bar and potentially contaminating it

Stainless steel tweezers you either pressure cook or autoclave.

I wash in ethanol, then put in a pressure cooker to sterilize.

All vials are put in the pressure cooker as well.

Caps and stoppers I use a baby bottle cleaner (steam sterilization). Does the trick.

"thinking of not including gluathione as i want a clear solution. user reported that it create a cloudly milky solution. dont know how to adjust recipe." -> You need to adjust the PH using something like lye. It oxidizes past a certain PH, so you need to take it slow. Get a PH meter and you'll fuck it up once, then you'll know the PH it oxidizes above. I think there is a post on the forums here about it.

"this really seems good to me. i just dont know if the recipe is accurate or how much ml does this recipe end up making." -> Most compounds have a displacement. If you use a graduated cylinder, you can ignore this and just fill to the desired amount of MLs you want. Otherwise use an online calculator.

"
"500mg/ml L-Carnitine
100mg/ml L-Arginine
100mg/ml L-Citrulline
100mg/ml L-Orinthine"

Working backwards from this and your ingredients list...

25g l carnitine
5g arginine
5g citrulline
5g orinthine
20ml distilled water
0.5 ml benzyl alcohol"

500 mg / ml of L car, 25 g = 25000 mg, 25000 / 500 = 50 mls
100 mg / ml of L-Arg, 5 g = 5000 mg, 5000/ 100 = 50 mls
etc...

It should make 50 mls, either through compound displacement or adding more distilled water in a graduated cylinder until you hit the 50 mls line.

 

[hurray789]

Stainless steel tweezers you either pressure cook or autoclave.

I wash in ethanol, then put in a pressure cooker to sterilize.

All vials are put in the pressure cooker as well.

Caps and stoppers I use a baby bottle cleaner (steam sterilization). Does the trick.

"thinking of not including gluathione as i want a clear solution. user reported that it create a cloudly milky solution. dont know how to adjust recipe." -> You need to adjust the PH using something like lye. It oxidizes past a certain PH, so you need to take it slow. Get a PH meter and you'll fuck it up once, then you'll know the PH it oxidizes above. I think there is a post on the forums here about it.

"this really seems good to me. i just dont know if the recipe is accurate or how much ml does this recipe end up making." -> Most compounds have a displacement. If you use a graduated cylinder, you can ignore this and just fill to the desired amount of MLs you want. Otherwise use an online calculator.

"
"500mg/ml L-Carnitine
100mg/ml L-Arginine
100mg/ml L-Citrulline
100mg/ml L-Orinthine"

Working backwards from this and your ingredients list...

25g l carnitine
5g arginine
5g citrulline
5g orinthine
20ml distilled water
0.5 ml benzyl alcohol"

500 mg / ml of L car, 25 g = 25000 mg, 25000 / 500 = 50 mls
100 mg / ml of L-Arg, 5 g = 5000 mg, 5000/ 100 = 50 mls
etc...

It should make 50 mls, either through compound displacement or adding more distilled water in a graduated cylinder until you hit the 50 mls line.

thanks for the quick and thorough response, i do plan on buying sterile vials. so the only thing that needs to be cleaned will be the magnetic stirrer and beaker. and maybe my measuring spoon for the powder. should i buy a glass measuring spoon as well?

pressure cooker/autoclave although guarantees sterilization, that adds $$ to my brew setup. im trying to limit cost as much as possible. Am hoping the soap/wash + alcohol soak+ distilled water rinse is enough.

do you have any amino recipe you enjoy?

 

[someguy22922]

thanks for the quick and thorough response, i do plan on buying sterile vials. so the only thing that needs to be cleaned will be the magnetic stirrer and beaker. and maybe my measuring spoon for the powder. should i buy a glass measuring spoon as well?

pressure cooker/autoclave although guarantees sterilization, that adds $$ to my brew setup. im trying to limit cost as much as possible. Am hoping the soap/wash + alcohol soak+ distilled water rinse is enough.

do you have any amino recipe you enjoy?

If you wanna be cheap get a baby bottler steamer with heat option used off Facebook market place.

Never really used them tbh. I stick to SLU and Mots C if looking for an energy boost.