Joint pain and low estrogen

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I'll read the other, similar, threads, but months ago my labs showed too much estrogen, so I started taking the AI the clinic routinely provided with the test cyp. A few weeks ago I started having some pain in my right elbow, my left ankle and my left shoulder. It didn't start all at once; the ankle is an old injury that comes and goes over years. The elbow was the result of bumping it during a rollar coaster ride and the shoulder, well I can't tie that to anything. It just started several weeks ago and has caused me to reduce my gym time.

Yesterday morning I remembered that my latest labs, maybe 8 or so weeks ago, showed estrogen as not detectable. Is the joint pain I describe something I could attribute to that?
 

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yes, low estrogen will make your joints feel like they are fragile and painful. For me, the way I describe it is that my joints feel like they're made out of thin glass when my E2 is too low.
 

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I'll read the other, similar, threads, but months ago my labs showed too much estrogen, so I started taking the AI the clinic routinely provided with the test cyp. A few weeks ago I started having some pain in my right elbow, my left ankle and my left shoulder. It didn't start all at once; the ankle is an old injury that comes and goes over years. The elbow was the result of bumping it during a rollar coaster ride and the shoulder, well I can't tie that to anything. It just started several weeks ago and has caused me to reduce my gym time.

Yesterday morning I remembered that my latest labs, maybe 8 or so weeks ago, showed estrogen as not detectable. Is the joint pain I describe something I could attribute to that?

Absolutely.

Same thing happened to me follow the TRT clinic protocol of 1 mg Adex twice per week, with 200 mg Test Cyp.

My elbows felt like there was broken glass in them, no sex drive, it was awful.

Estradiol was undetectable, it read "<5" or something like that.

Fukktard "doctor" didn't say anything, I had to learn this shit on my own, and from others, such as the people here.
 

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Okay thanks guys, I'm going to discontinue the AI and call the clinic this week.
 

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Gyno is bad enough!
 

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Whats really the downfall of having high Estrogen
Prostate, liver and heart issues. That i have seen reported. How many other things that haven't been studied yet is unknown. I tend you think in general "normal" levels tend to be healthier then high or low for most blood work.


 

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I found your E needs to be bottomed out for a little for the joint issues to surface. That sounds like you've been there for some time so Yes.

I crashed mine once and I just felt so damn tired. That's the symptom I saw right away.
 

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What does your bloodwork look like?

as others have touched on, low estrogen = bad.

but also something to consider is e2 levels play an important function in endogenous IGF-1 production, so being in the mid/mid-high of the reference range has a fairly potent positive effect on recovery and muscle gain.
 

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So in addition to the joint pain I have been fatigued a bit. I just reviewed the lat labs, Jan 3, and Estradiol says "< 25 LOW" and cites a normal range as: 25.8 - 60.7

So in hindsight, I don't really know how low it is, just that its low.

I called the clinic, scheduled a Dr. consult for May 13, which was the soonest they could do it. In the meantime I'll stop the AI. I suppose I could also reduce it by half, but the last time I spoke with the doc he also had me lower the test, so maybe I won't need the AI. I know, more labs.
 
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