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I know all the norms of cycling. That aside.

If someone in their late 30 wanted to run a 1 year run at 300 test a week for 8 weeks and 600 a week for 8 weeks. Back and forth for a year or more. Would there be no chance to recover even with using hcg bi weekly throughout?

Met a guy and he says he is 20 weeks into this. Only trained 6month natty and plans to run like this for 60 weeks and pct. He is 32. 5 gears younger than I am, but doesn't have near the experience. His buddy showed him the way and also supplied him at $250 per 10cc bottle. Fucking bottom feeder.

Convo came up when he saw me pick up a 500lb counter weight for working on forklift extensions and move it a few inches for the maintenance guys. That aside it has peeked my Interest.

Would this fuck someone up and if so is there any way to blast and cruise and then come back off and restore natural HPTA. I am thinking of posting his results here because he won't quit the cycle and fuck it if it's more research then why not.

This is open convo and I'm hoping to get some good feedback and debate... Also I didn't use AI to write this shit.. lmmfao
 

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I know all the norms of cycling. That aside.

If someone in their late 30 wanted to run a 1 year run at 300 test a week for 8 weeks and 600 a week for 8 weeks. Back and forth for a year or more. Would there be no chance to recover even with using hcg bi weekly throughout?

Met a guy and he says he is 20 weeks into this. Only trained 6month natty and plans to run like this for 60 weeks and pct. He is 32. 5 gears younger than I am, but doesn't have near the experience. His buddy showed him the way and also supplied him at $250 per 10cc bottle. Fucking bottom feeder.

Convo came up when he saw me pick up a 500lb counter weight for working on forklift extensions and move it a few inches for the maintenance guys. That aside it has peeked my Interest.

Would this fuck someone up and if so is there any way to blast and cruise and then come back off and restore natural HPTA. I am thinking of posting his results here because he won't quit the cycle and fuck it if it's more research then why not.

This is open convo and I'm hoping to get some good feedback and debate... Also I didn't use AI to write this shit.. lmmfao
Meant early 30s
 

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I agree $250 a bottle is too much. Let him know I can get him a much better deal at $225 a vial 😂
That's a part that got me irritated. What got me absolutely missed was this guy telling someone to do such a big cycle and for so long with 6 months of training. That made me pretty missed. I know I shouldn't get involved, but you know what.... feel like I should talk to the mam. Lmmfao. Friendly banter and what not
 

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Eh, some people don't ever fully recover even with PCT. On the other side, we have guys who have come off after being on TRT for 20 years and recover all of their natural test production; it's not common but it happens.

With that said, as long as he stays on top of his blood work, doesn't develop high blood pressure, hematocrit, RBC, etc.. then he could run testosterone indefinitely without much issue.

If I were going to do that, then I'd start at 300mg and add another 100mg whenever strength or weight gained stalled out for multiple weeks in a row. I wouldn't see-saw between 300 and 600 every 8 weeks... that's dumb.
 

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Eh, some people don't ever fully recover even with PCT. On the other side, we have guys who have come off after being on TRT for 20 years and recover all of their natural test production; it's not common but it happens.

With that said, as long as he stays on top of his blood work, doesn't develop high blood pressure, hematocrit, RBC, etc.. then he could run testosterone indefinitely without much issue.

If I were going to do that, then I'd start at 300mg and add another 100mg whenever strength or weight gained stalled out for multiple weeks in a row. I wouldn't see-saw between 300 and 600 every 8 weeks... that's dumb.
Noted. Still gonna work on the guy about cutting it off and doing pct and starting up late spring, but he feels like a god and doesn't wanna fucking listen. Thinks he is bulletproof(must be working)
 

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In terms of his ability to recover, that's an impossible question to answer. As for the cycle itself, it's fucking stupid.

Tell Einstein to just run 300 mg for as long as he's seeing results, and bloodwork is good. If and when he needs more, bump it up to 400 mg and repeat.
 

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In terms of his ability to recover, that's an impossible question to answer. As for the cycle itself, it's fucking stupid.

Tell Einstein to just run 300 mg for as long as he's seeing results, and bloodwork is good. If and when he needs more, bump it up to 400 mg and repeat.
I'm trying. Gonna run his BP and glucose at work. Have kits in the med bag. His face is too red and he talks about holding water in his ankle from heavy squats. I told him it's his fucking bp
 

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Very true. Not sure how I'm gonna react when I meet his buddy,but he trolly won't be friends anymore. Lmao
I don’t know man. I mean if I set up a lemonade stand in my yard for $100 a glass and someone decides to pay it. Why am I the idiot in the situation?

I don’t sell gear cause I ain’t got the balls for it. But if I did rest assure it’s not to turn a $10 profit.
 

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I don’t know man. I mean if I set up a lemonade stand in my yard for $100 a glass and someone decides to pay it. Why am I the idiot in the situation?

I don’t sell gear cause I ain’t got the balls for it. But if I did rest assure it’s not to turn a $10 profit.
True. Think I'm just looking for somewhere to vent my aggression. Trolly should stay in my lane
 

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I don’t know man. I mean if I set up a lemonade stand in my yard for $100 a glass and someone decides to pay it. Why am I the idiot in the situation?

I don’t sell gear cause I ain’t got the balls for it. But if I did rest assure it’s not to turn a $10 profit.
True, but also there's a clear difference to taking advantage of a person vs just trying to make a decent profit.

In the end, I agree that it's the customers fault for being ignorant enough to pay that price... But doesn't mean I'm not going to look at the person selling like he's an asshole, cuz he is. 😂
 

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True, but also there's a clear difference to taking advantage of a person vs just trying to make a decent profit.

In the end, I agree that it's the customers fault for being ignorant enough to pay that price... But doesn't mean I'm not going to look at the person selling like he's an asshole, cuz he is. 😂
What I learned over the years is folks asking a reasonable price for goods and or services rendered do more business over time than the top dollar folks .. and make way more money
 

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True, but also there's a clear difference to taking advantage of a person vs just trying to make a decent profit.

In the end, I agree that it's the customers fault for being ignorant enough to pay that price... But doesn't mean I'm not going to look at the person selling like he's an asshole, cuz he is.

What I learned over the years is folks asking a reasonable price for goods and or services rendered do more business over time than the top dollar folks .. and make way more money
Preach that to the gas and beef companies
 

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Preach that to the gas and beef companies
We deal with the same slaughter house I had my first job up here at. Whole side runs ya 12/1500 bucks and they will package it up for ya how you want it.

Fuck them gas bastards (y) :ROFLMAO:

Electric company can suck my ass too
 

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We deal with the same slaughter house I had my first job up here at. Whole side runs ya 12/1500 bucks and they will package it up for ya how you want it.

Fuck them gas bastards (y) :ROFLMAO:

Electric company can suck my ass too
I live in beef country and it’s criminal what transpires. Not enough rain so consumer prices of grocery beef skyrocket. The next year…. To much rain the price of beef goes up even more. In both cases ranchers were paid the same per lb, meat packers wages were the same. So where do these high profits go to? U guessed it…. Crooks! Once it goes up it never comes back down. They just wait on a new plan of fuckery and the wheels on the bus go round and round
 

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I live in beef country and it’s criminal what transpires. Not enough rain so consumer prices of grocery beef skyrocket. The next year…. To much rain the price of beef goes up even more. In both cases ranchers were paid the same per lb, meat packers wages were the same. So where do these high profits go to? U guessed it…. Crooks! Once it goes up it never comes back down. They just wait on a new plan of fuckery and the wheels on the bus go round and round
Yeah that shit sucks ..no big ranches up here really like Texas or other places , mostly small farms raising a dozen or so extra critters a year just to sell off.

Before we moved and had the space for them I would do 4 or 5 Black Angus every year.
 

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