Most important factors for libido in TRT?

[oatmasterflax]

Been on TRT for a few years. Struggling with libido, which at this point is likely not hormone related. That being said, I'd like to tweak my protocol to maximize my chances in this department.

I am unfortunately a high aromatizer (and I don't have a ton of excess fat)

What factors play the biggest role in libido hormonally for you guys on TRT? (Or aas if it translates)

Current protocol:
100mg test e, sub-q split 3x weekly
1050iu hcg, split 3x weekly
No AI

The HCG is new but hasn't been terribly helpful in the libido department (fertility is not an issue at the moment) Usually run 140-160mg test but lowered it for the HCG.

 

[wsmwannabe]

First thing's first. Blood testing is your friend. Secondly, If you're a high aromatizer, you should at least strongly consider and AI (but let your blood test determine this unless you're willing to gamble).

My libido and my wiener go to shit if my E2 gets too high

 

[Jonjon]

Libido is so complex. I’ve never got it where I want it. Actually on 600 test 600 deca it’s better than it’s been in a long time.

Some say test is too low, some say it’s too high.. some say estradiol is too low, some say too high… some say you need more DHT… blah blah blah

Some say get a hotter wife… any body that says that has no idea what it’s like to suffer from lack of sex drive. It’s awful, and it’s a nightmare for a relationship. Hope you get it worked out

 

[Jonjon]

So HCG didn’t help? That was one thing I haven’t tried

 

[snake]

Test Cyp. at 200/wk for TRT is good for me but more test on cycle with an AI and holding my e2 under 40 iss just fine.

Never did HCG and wouldn't expect it to help the libido.

We have hashed out the libido issues many times but I still feel if the BW is good and Wally is still not responding, there's other factors. So much goes on between the ears when it comes to sex it's just crazy. If you're bangin' the same old ass for 20 years the same way it can get old. The stress of life can take a serious toll on your bedroom play too.

 

[oatmasterflax]

So HCG didn’t help? That was one thing I haven’t tried

It didn't hurt but it didn't help the sex drive at all. It helped with pleasure at orgasm though which my doc said may "guide the sex drive to follow". That didn't happen though.

The get a hotter wife shit cracks me up as a single guy. You can give me any woman in the world and I wouldn't be "mentally into it" at times. Although stimulation gets things working physically, the desire isn't there for whatever reason. It's rare. I used to have a very high libido so it definitely feels like a hole in my life.

Regarding blood work, I get it every 3 months or more sometimes. Don't have bw with the hcg though.

 

[OldeBull1]

I'm speaking out of my ass here, not from experience, just hearsay from reading around. This isn't recommendation, just a mention in a conversation...
Maybe look into adding 100-200mg of masteron. DHT based, so it should boost libido. Additionally, it could help with aromatization.
Vets, please correct my course if I am off base.

 

[Jonjon]

I'm speaking out of my ass here, not from experience, just hearsay from reading around. This isn't recommendation, just a mention in a conversation...
Maybe look into adding 100-200mg of masteron. DHT based, so it should boost libido. Additionally, it could help with aromatization.
Vets, please correct my course if I am off base.

No you’re right on target. Masteron OR proviron help a lot of guys.

I felt good taking masteron but I was taking other compounds too. Im out of masteron but will be adding it back in when I get more. Not sure how good it will be for me to run long term on my trt dose but I’m gonna try it

 

[OldeBull1]

@oatmasterflax you mentioned hcg helps with pleasure of orgasm. Please elaborate. Or anybody for that matter.

 

[oatmasterflax]

No you’re right on target. Masteron OR proviron help a lot of guys.

I felt good taking masteron but I was taking other compounds too. Im out of masteron but will be adding it back in when I get more. Not sure how good it will be for me to run long term on my trt dose but I’m gonna try it

Interesting. I know mast is known for libido but was leery of using it long term due to it being harsh on lipids (I believe).

Do you know if it's true that primo has a similar libido effect but is much less harsh on lipids?

Re: Orgasm pleasure, it's nothing mind blowing. On TRT my orgasms got more "dull" I'd say. Also less volume. HCG reversed that somewhat.

 

[notsoswoleCPA]

hCG only caused estradiol problems for me. OTOH, it does produce massive loads, but taking too long to reach that point appears to be a problem for the Mrs...

 

[oatmasterflax]

hCG only caused estradiol problems for me. OTOH, it does produce massive loads, but taking too long to reach that point appears to be a problem for the Mrs...

Yeah especially if your drinking adequate amounts of water, big time loads lol

 

[Bro Bundy]

That’s to much hcg imo. It can cause high estrogen

 

[Jonjon]

Interesting. I know mast is known for libido but was leery of using it long term due to it being harsh on lipids (I believe).

There was an old thread on here where a guy tried to do low dose tren with trt. I believe he did it a couple year while monitoring blood work.

If I remember right, his lipids were off at first but after a while they improved even while still taking tren. Would be nice if the masteron would be that way. Might be

 

[GreatGunz]

I’m assuming you ment 10.50 iu

 

[oatmasterflax]

I’m assuming you ment 10.50 iu

Nah 1050 iu (350iu 3x a week). Don't feel dramatically different on it, but it isn't helping.

10.5iu x3 seems drastically low, no? The minimum dose is 750iu a week for HCG typically.

 

[Bro Bundy]

Nah 1050 iu (350iu 3x a week). Don't feel dramatically different on it, but it isn't helping.

10.5iu x3 seems drastically low, no? The minimum dose is 750iu a week for HCG typically.

500 iu can be used just fine ..
To much hcg I don’t have the scientific term but it will blow your nut sack out

 

[Bobbyloads]

20mg cialis
50mg viagra

works everytime lmao

 

[Bro Bundy]

20mg cialis
50mg viagra

works everytime lmao

The viagra alone isn’t enough ?

 

[Bobbyloads]

The viagra alone isn’t enough ?

Like the extra kick lol