Hi guys , i need some of your help.
So its my 2nd cycle atm 500mg test e, 500 mg primo /weekly
First cycle test e 500 mg.
So i have some problems with PIP and lets say some kind of "lumps" in the area after injecting.
Im rotating between 4 spots : right and left shoulder , right and left VG
So on first cycle i started pining with insulin needles in shoulders and rotate between these two sites some time.. and ofc on begginging i got those pip because of virgin muscle.. and after some weeks it was better but after some shots i was getting this lumps in the area of injefting.. first i thouth i inject shoulders too often, so i add both VG sites.. and i start injecting them with the same insulin needles (now i know the needle is ofc too short - i learn hard way because i was getting those lumps almost after every injections and it was feeling like oil was need injected deep enought and it was staying between muscle and skin lets say in subq area.. and it was pain on touch , no redness , no hot , but it was hell of a pain..
So then cruise come and i lowerd the dose on 200mg test e , and for delts i was still using insulin pins , for Ventral glutes i switched to 23G x 1" needles..
On delts i sometimes still got those lumps but not too often , VG was preaty fine now on cruise..
So now last week i stared my 2nd cycle 500mg test e , and 500mg primo.
And volume of this is kinda killing me , because primo is concentrated 100mg/ml and thats for me alot more oil then on first cycle.
So it was like this:
MON - 200 mg primo , 200 mg test , 2,8cc together injected in left VG with 23G x 1" needle , first day was okay , next day in the evening area start hurting , but no lump , no redness , but glute was hard when i thouch it ..
So i thought it just to much of oil cc injected once and i will need to make smaller shots
THU - 100mg primo , 150mg test , 1,6cc together. Injected in left shoulder with 26Gx 5/8" needle .. area was preaty fine day or two then i got some pain and again the lump
FRI_ - 100mg primo , Injected in right shoulder with 26Gx 5/8" needle .. that was the only shot that was fine no pip , no lump..
SAT- 100 mg primo , 150 mg test , 1,6cc together , injected in right VG with 23G x 1" needle ... and it goes similar like injection on MON , one ore two days good ni problems , then started hurting and are was kinda hard (skin) , but no lump , no redness , no hot..
this was week 1
so now we are here on this week so
MON- 100 primo , 200 test , 1,8 cc together in right shoulder with 26Gx 5/8" needle .. i really heat up the vials for like 15-20 min in hot water and then injcted , now is WED and so far only litle bit of PIP , but no lump no nothing...
So guys now iam asking do you maybe "see" where could be are problem or what aim doing wrong?
Are needles just too shoort and im not injecting deep enought?
Or is just too much volume of oil for my "virgin" muscles ?
And should i have more than 4 spots for rotating sites or its okay?
thanks!!
So its my 2nd cycle atm 500mg test e, 500 mg primo /weekly
First cycle test e 500 mg.
So i have some problems with PIP and lets say some kind of "lumps" in the area after injecting.
Im rotating between 4 spots : right and left shoulder , right and left VG
So on first cycle i started pining with insulin needles in shoulders and rotate between these two sites some time.. and ofc on begginging i got those pip because of virgin muscle.. and after some weeks it was better but after some shots i was getting this lumps in the area of injefting.. first i thouth i inject shoulders too often, so i add both VG sites.. and i start injecting them with the same insulin needles (now i know the needle is ofc too short - i learn hard way because i was getting those lumps almost after every injections and it was feeling like oil was need injected deep enought and it was staying between muscle and skin lets say in subq area.. and it was pain on touch , no redness , no hot , but it was hell of a pain..
So then cruise come and i lowerd the dose on 200mg test e , and for delts i was still using insulin pins , for Ventral glutes i switched to 23G x 1" needles..
On delts i sometimes still got those lumps but not too often , VG was preaty fine now on cruise..
So now last week i stared my 2nd cycle 500mg test e , and 500mg primo.
And volume of this is kinda killing me , because primo is concentrated 100mg/ml and thats for me alot more oil then on first cycle.
So it was like this:
MON - 200 mg primo , 200 mg test , 2,8cc together injected in left VG with 23G x 1" needle , first day was okay , next day in the evening area start hurting , but no lump , no redness , but glute was hard when i thouch it ..
So i thought it just to much of oil cc injected once and i will need to make smaller shots
THU - 100mg primo , 150mg test , 1,6cc together. Injected in left shoulder with 26Gx 5/8" needle .. area was preaty fine day or two then i got some pain and again the lump
FRI_ - 100mg primo , Injected in right shoulder with 26Gx 5/8" needle .. that was the only shot that was fine no pip , no lump..
SAT- 100 mg primo , 150 mg test , 1,6cc together , injected in right VG with 23G x 1" needle ... and it goes similar like injection on MON , one ore two days good ni problems , then started hurting and are was kinda hard (skin) , but no lump , no redness , no hot..
this was week 1
so now we are here on this week so
MON- 100 primo , 200 test , 1,8 cc together in right shoulder with 26Gx 5/8" needle .. i really heat up the vials for like 15-20 min in hot water and then injcted , now is WED and so far only litle bit of PIP , but no lump no nothing...
So guys now iam asking do you maybe "see" where could be are problem or what aim doing wrong?
Are needles just too shoort and im not injecting deep enought?
- FOR GLUTES I HAVE 23G x 1" needle
- FOR SHOULDERS I HAVE 26G x 5/8" nedle
Or is just too much volume of oil for my "virgin" muscles ?
And should i have more than 4 spots for rotating sites or its okay?
thanks!!
