Semaglutide VS Tirzepatide VS Retatrutide

[frankRAW]

Which one works the best in weight loss?

 

[Thrawn]

Which one works the best in weight loss?

Data says retaturtide but phase 3vtrials not complete

 

[AssociateX]

I think it really depends on the person as well.

I'm currently on quite a few forms reading material in all my free time. I'm also reading what people have to say about what they're taking. Some of these people are at the maximum dose and still complaining about plateauing.

How the fuck are they plateauing at a maximum dose?!?!

It's just like the 'lap band' surgery. Some people pay to surgically restrict their stomach and then they eat their ways out of that surgery and back to being fat again. Then there are other people that get the surgery to lose weight and do everything I can to keep it off. They study nutrition, they don't snack between meals, they take whatever supplements they need to take, and they eat how they should eat as if they were never fat in the first place.

So, how are they plateauing? They're eating too much! My suspicion is that they don't change their eating habits, not that they're going to be honest about that, and they think that these are going to be magic bullets that do all the work for them. These medicines are only aids to help you get to where you want, they are not magic bullets.

If you really want to lose weight, learn how to eat right, learn about nutrition, understand your macros and micros, learn about calorie density and portion sizes, learn about your three calorie sources protein carbs and fat, learn about the difference between eating for nutrition and eating for pleasure... And that's all I got off the top of my head, but there's more, but you'll have to figure that out.

In the end, if you keep on thinking about food after doing all of that and it's a struggle, any one of these medicines can help you.

If you remember anything out of this, remember that these medicines are not magic bullets, and you're going to have to learn how to eat like you would eat if you never had been fat. That's at a minimum, if you want to take it a step further, add muscle building exercises which can be anything from joining a running club or joining a gym and lifting weights.

 

[Megatron28]

I think it really depends on the person as well.

I'm currently on quite a few forms reading material in all my free time. I'm also reading what people have to say about what they're taking. Some of these people are at the maximum dose and still complaining about plateauing.

How the fuck are they plateauing at a maximum dose?!?!

It's just like the 'lap band' surgery. Some people pay to surgically restrict their stomach and then they eat their ways out of that surgery and back to being fat again. Then there are other people that get the surgery to lose weight and do everything I can to keep it off. They study nutrition, they don't snack between meals, they take whatever supplements they need to take, and they eat how they should eat as if they were never fat in the first place.

So, how are they plateauing? They're eating too much! My suspicion is that they don't change their eating habits, not that they're going to be honest about that, and they think that these are going to be magic bullets that do all the work for them. These medicines are only aids to help you get to where you want, they are not magic bullets.

If you really want to lose weight, learn how to eat right, learn about nutrition, understand your macros and micros, learn about calorie density and portion sizes, learn about your three calorie sources protein carbs and fat, learn about the difference between eating for nutrition and eating for pleasure... And that's all I got off the top of my head, but there's more, but you'll have to figure that out.

In the end, if you keep on thinking about food after doing all of that and it's a struggle, any one of these medicines can help you.

If you remember anything out of this, remember that these medicines are not magic bullets, and you're going to have to learn how to eat like you would eat if you never had been fat. That's at a minimum, if you want to take it a step further, add muscle building exercises which can be anything from joining a running club or joining a gym and lifting weights.

I don’t feel like debate everything you wrote but you are a little off base on a lot of what you said.

As for hitting a plateau, that is because there are diminishing returns. Losing the next pound is always going to be harder than the previous pound that was lost. You can’t diet down all the way to zero pounds after all. Well you can’t if you want to stay alive lol.

Similarly, increasing the dosage yields diminishing returns. At some point doubling your dosage doesn’t provide any measurable benefit in terms of weight loss.

 

[AssociateX]

I don’t feel like debate everything you wrote but you are a little off base on a lot of what you said.

As for hitting a plateau, that is because there are diminishing returns. Losing the next pound is always going to be harder than the previous pound that was lost. You can’t diet down all the way to zero pounds after all. Well you can’t if you want to stay alive lol.

Similarly, increasing the dosage yields diminishing returns. At some point doubling your dosage doesn’t provide any measurable benefit in terms of weight loss.

I don't disagree with you because in certain positions you are 100% correct and being contrarian is not my default disposition. But for a clarification sake, which would have helped from the very beginning, I'm talking about people that state that they still have 30 to 70 pounds to lose. I didn't mention that, so interpreting that another way was left open. I get it.

 

[Jowic87]

which of its 3 molecules present the least risk?

 

[AssociateX]

Speaking more to the title of this thread, someone will probably like this read:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mounjaro/comments/189eheq/comparing_the_big_3_semaglutide_tirzepatide_and

From what I have read, sema is very popular for some reason, but a lot of people have neg side effects with upset stomach, nausea, and so on. Tirz has far fewer complaints about negative sides. From my experience (just one man's anecdote), tirz works very well at minimum dosage (2.5 mg, although I ran at every 5 days instead of 7 to avoid peaks and valleys) for those with at least some nutritional knowledge and some discipline. Reta sounds hopeful, as it is almost identical to tirz but with a little modification for additional benefits, but that hope is just in theory so far as I know. Read the post I linked for a more in depth read.

 

[Oml]

I’m in no way an expert here. But I can give my first impressions of Semaglutide.

My main reason for using it is solely to speed up my weight loss on a cut. And I find it helps me cut out that extra 500 or so calories per day. I do have and have always had an eating disorder, I would use it for comfort and I was unsure if th drug would even work when it came face to face with it. But so far, yes, it even suppresses it. I do not crave food. I do not crave sugar. I have to make myself eat a large breakfast to ensure I get 70-80g of protein for breakfast and that’s roughly 5am. By 1pm I’m still very full, or so I feel like it anyway, and I have to force myself again to eat a few eggs perhaps 4-6 scrambled eggs just with a little salt and pepper. And then when it comes to dinner, around 5-6-7pm I again have to force myself to
Eat some chicken breasts. I do get 200+ g of protein a day, I’m taking vitamin supplements and TUDCA as gallstones are in the family.

Im using 0.2mg every 5 days, and just pinning 125mg test U every 5 days also.

 

[Auxilab_]

I think semaglutide is good, more people like to use this product now.

 

[Mandy-tjk]

Tirz, reta , sema all sells well. Reta effect more good I think

 

[CohibaRobusto]

I like tirzepatide a lot. It basically just makes it super easy for me to stay on diets that were hard to stay on before I had it.

I also like the benefits I've read about how it improves insulin sensitivity and then what it has done for my digestion as well. (slowed it down, which I needed badly)

 

[Mandy-tjk]

I like tirzepatide a lot. It basically just makes it super easy for me to stay on diets that were hard to stay on before I had it.

I also like the benefits I've read about how it improves insulin sensitivity and then what it has done for my digestion as well. (slowed it down, which I needed badly)

Yes, Tirz is good and I totally agree with you, Tirz is easy to stay on diets! my customer loss 12kg a month, she said feel eay to keep diets, lol!

 

[j2048b]

I like tirzepatide a lot. It basically just makes it super easy for me to stay on diets that were hard to stay on before I had it.

I also like the benefits I've read about how it improves insulin sensitivity and then what it has done for my digestion as well. (slowed it down, which I needed badly)

Any good cholesterol sides? Ive read that it helps the liver with cholesterol!? But ive also read anemia… and the opposite of higher iron due to slower gastric emptying

 

[CohibaRobusto]

I haven't noticed anything personally, but there are some positive studies coming out on tirz and cholesterol:

Effect of tirzepatide on blood pressure and lipids: A meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials - PubMed

Tirzepatide induced clinically meaningful reductions in the levels of systolic and diastolic blood pressure, total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol and triglycerides, along with increases in the level of HDL cholesterol.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I already had iron issues way before tirzepatide, so I take iron supplements.

 

[j2048b]

I haven't noticed anything personally, but there are some positive studies coming out on tirz and cholesterol:

Effect of tirzepatide on blood pressure and lipids: A meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials - PubMed

Tirzepatide induced clinically meaningful reductions in the levels of systolic and diastolic blood pressure, total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol and triglycerides, along with increases in the level of HDL cholesterol.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I already had iron issues way before tirzepatide, so I take iron supplements.

Well ahit that suxks… i have thick blood right now and havent touched test since last September and that was only 1 shot of 200 mlg… so it may actually allow me to be normal haha