Supplements vs prescription meds to lower cholesterol

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Some of you may have read the article about the study that was conducted that looked at the efficacy of supplements via prescription meds to lower cholesterol.

Spoiler alert: the study showed meds to be more effective.

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I would like a study of those meds vs cardarine
 

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Drink some tart cherry juice is what i was told and throw a bunch of other shit at it.... Thats what ima bout to do
 

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As red rice yeast contains monacolin K, which has the same chemical makeup as lovastatin (Mevacor) If i wanted a natural stain i would mostly be using things other then what was in that article,
 

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As red rice yeast contains monacolin K, which has the same chemical makeup as lovastatin (Mevacor) If i wanted a natural stain i would mostly be using things other then what was in that article,
Problem is, at least in the US, none of the Red yeast rice has it in there anymore.
 

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I would like a study of those meds vs cardarine
Prob is they drum up all the Cardarine Cancer shit and scare people away, the studies on it were tanked on purpose when they say how effective it is, which was INCREDIBLY better than any statin! I literally cut everything in half with in including my sdLDL. Doc almost shit her pants when she saw my followup. If anybody considered it, I could post those labs.

NOTHING touches Cardarine for unfucking cholesterol. Good for some energy/stamina fat burn as well.
 

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Problem is, at least in the US, none of the Red yeast rice has it in there anymore.
U can still buy it from overseas, i just did i got 3 bottles of ZENement ryr with coq10 included within it and 2.6 mlg of monacolin k…. Pretty affordable and each bottle has 540 tablets…. Excited to try it and see how my body reacts to it
 

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Prob is they drum up all the Cardarine Cancer shit and scare people away, the studies on it were tanked on purpose when they say how effective it is, which was INCREDIBLY better than any statin! I literally cut everything in half with in including my sdLDL. Doc almost shit her pants when she saw my followup. If anybody considered it, I could post those labs.

NOTHING touches Cardarine for unfucking cholesterol. Good for some energy/stamina fat burn as well.
So what dosage do you take and if u have family cholesterol issues does it seem to work !?
 

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I've gotten excellent results using this, which I got off of Amazon, in conjunction with krill oil.
 

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So what dosage do you take and if u have family cholesterol issues does it seem to work !?
10mg/daily is the standard and what I took, but next time around I'm gonna go for 5mg and see if that's enough. My parents have high cholesterol, but as far as I'm concerned that's their shit diet.
 

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My info says something different. But the level is inconsistent. But never was standardized.
Fine, but finding it in there doesn't change that it's not supposed to be in there, that's the problem. It can't be listed so you have no hope when buying it.
 

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Fine, but finding it in there doesn't change that it's not supposed to be in there, that's the problem. It can't be listed so you have no hope when buying it.
Where is the law saying it is not allowed in there? I have not seen that. The feds only questioned when the levels were as high as in a prescription drug from my understanding..
 

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Where is the law saying it is not allowed in there? I have not seen that. The feds only questioned when the levels were as high as in a prescription drug from my understanding..
In 1998, the FDA determined that a red yeast rice product that contained a substantial amount of monacolin K was an unapproved new drug, not a dietary supplement. On several occasions since then, the FDA has taken action against companies selling red yeast rice products that contain more than trace amounts of monacolin K, warning them that it is against the law to market these products as dietary supplements.
(Sorry, can't provide reference link, cuz I don't have enough posts. Look up "Red Yeast Rice" and "NIH". You can also try seaching on "new law red yeast rice" for more references.)

As I understand it: The FDA took action upon complaints from the drug manufacturers.
 

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(Sorry, can't provide reference link, cuz I don't have enough posts. Look up "Red Yeast Rice" and "NIH". You can also try seaching on "new law red yeast rice" for more references.)

As I understand it: The FDA took action upon complaints from the drug manufacturers.
As i see products on Amazon saying that they contain monacolins the same chemical as lovastatin i would have to assume that it is not illegal as Amazon tends to pull such things if they are. My understanding that it is legal. The FDA seems to just want the levels of monacolins to be low so it can not compete with a pharmaceutical company.
 

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Where is the law saying it is not allowed in there? I have not seen that. The feds only questioned when the levels were as high as in a prescription drug from my understanding..
The FDA can't write laws, most of their restrictions are a result of opinions, just as when state Attorney Generals issue opinions, and they're treated exactly as laws even though they've never been passed as such. Look at what happened with Amazon and NAC for over a year! How many people to this day still somehow think that Ephedrine was "banned" in the US when no such thing ever happened, one specific form of it (Ma Huang) couldn't be put in supps anymore and that translated into an "Ephederine Ban". Luckily that was never the case.
 

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The FDA can't write laws, most of their restrictions are a result of opinions, just as when state Attorney Generals issue opinions, and they're treated exactly as laws even though they've never been passed as such. Look at what happened with Amazon and NAC for over a year! How many people to this day still somehow think that Ephedrine was "banned" in the US when no such thing ever happened, one specific form of it (Ma Huang) couldn't be put in supps anymore and that translated into an "Ephederine Ban". Luckily that was never the case.
True i should have used the word rule or regulation not law. But breaking their rules can result in fines and/or jail time. As the FDA's stance on NAC does not seem to have takes effect till august of this year and i have not read the whole thing but seems to point to them choosing when and where to enforce it. Seems to mean that to sell it that companies just need to keep it lower profile. And no one wants to import large amounts of ephedrine as it could be in to big of a dose per serving and the FDA could change their guidelines in a moments notice and then companies would be left holding a lot of product that they couldn't legally sell like last time. What people say about things on the internet i don't quote unless i have read the info myself or know the source and trust them implicitly. While many quote things as truth especially if they see it posted repeatedly, but that is what sheep tend to to do is follow the flock, And i am not implying you are one of those.
 
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I used to take policosanol (a supplement), to keep my in range LDL, lower After the freaking virus made it's first appearance, most of my labs were shit, particularly lipids and liver enzymes. My Dr. scripted me rosuvastatin, but I dropped it after 2 weeks and switched to Slo-Niacin. Pulled labs @ 22 weeks and my tris, LDL, and HDL had all improved. So I blame the virus for the initial lab values.

While on the subject, I'll say a lot of Drs. will steer their patients away using niacin and rosuvastatin. There's a belief that it can rarely lead to rhabdomyolysis.

On the other hand, I know guys that use low dose extended release niacin and rosuvastatin concurrently and have stellar results. They don't use much of it though, ~250mg of Niaspan, a prescription extended release niacin.
 

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