Test and Mast cycle. Feel like shit!

Adrenolin

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Im just a trt guy so I cant help you much but I can definitely say those multiple weekly pins are pointless. Long esters just need one dose a week

I'd recommend twice a week for more stable blood serum levels.. will result in less sides (ime) in the beginning of the cycle.

Not relevant here, but I do make use of daily long ester pins when doing a higher dose of test.. like >1500mg
 

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Definitely not because of the Mast and at 200mg/wk you're not going to get much out of it. No reason to take it more then 2x a week for your shots.
 

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Definitely not because of the Mast and at 200mg/wk you're not going to get much out of it

have heard a lot of this by respectable lifters.

but will say that 200mgs of mast on top of 200mgs test per week works really well in my experience

would more work better, of course it will.

but scoffing at 200 seems a little under rated
 

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have heard a lot of this by respectable lifters.

but will say that 200mgs of mast on top of 200mgs test per week works really well in my experience

would more work better, of course it will.

but scoffing at 200 seems a little under rated

Not scoffing at it but if he's not already lean, he's not going to see anything from 200mg of Mast. It works best being lean already and imho I like to run it around 400-500mg/wk.
 
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Clen is gross. Get rid of it.

Why did you hire a coach? Are you competing in something?
 

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I’m running test and mast with nothing else and i fee amazing! Having good gains again after my Covid a few months ago!
 

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Not scoffing at it but if he's not already lean, he's not going to see anything from 200mg of Mast. It works best being lean already and imho I like to run it around 400-500mg/wk.

heres the thing though, BrotherIron

really wasnt that lean on my 200 test 200 mast cycle

got really beefed up on it imo

have you ever used it at 200mgs ontop of 200mgs for more than say 6 weeks ?

or have you always taking the standard issue 400 plus milligrams from the set go ?

because of what youve heard that it aint shit at less than 400mgs

just curious (bi)
 

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heres the thing

in the days of my youth (Led Zepplin)

used to go ahead with the standard issue reccomended doses of these products

but nowadays ive gotta be more cautious with the usages

and am finding these light cycles work better than expected
 

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grant you im not going from David Banner to Lou Ferrigno over night

but it beats the living dog shit out of anything otc by a long shot
 

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