Tom's HPLC Steroid Testing Thread

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Hey guys,

I recently ordered some Janoshik testing on some oral steroid sources. I figured, for the good of the community, it was best to share them publicly.

This thread will also serve as a collection of any testing I get done in the future, whether it be something I brew myself/raws I get, or stuff I order from other sources. If I get it tested ill be sharing the results here.

Whenever possible I will include a photo of the product and packaging for comparison.

I have no affiliation with any of the sources shown in this thread, and all testing's will be done blind at my own personal expense.

I do not endorse any of the sources presented in this thread, regardless of testing result. One good result does not mean a source is reliable.
 

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Source: Para Pharma
Compound: Anavar 10mg

Physical Description:
Vacuum Sealed pouch packaging. Very small pill ~2mm or so. Yellow and coated, sweet taste.
Perforated for cutting in half with "PP" stamped on it.

Product was sent to Jano pre-crushed to ensure the markings were not recognized.

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Great idea. Mind if others contribute?
by all means, a collection true 3rd party testings is priceless.

id like to keep it somewhat organized format wise so its searchable as well for future users.
 

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These images are huge and may take a while or hang on mobile devices.
 

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These images are huge and may take a while or hang on mobile devices.
I can try and downsize them on future uploads. I guess this is a downside of current phones having insanely high rez cameras
 

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Score for kingdom of var lol
I’ll have to remember that one

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Score for kingdom of var lol
I’ll have to remember that one

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Remember, these results do not act as an endorsement.

50% overdosed is worse than slightly under dosed and shows poor quality control on their end. sure you're getting more active compound for your $, but consistency and accuracy is valuable as well.

I see this result as a pretty harsh negative for them, these results means they are pretty much out of the question for female users.
 

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Remember, these results do not act as an endorsement.

50% overdosed is worse than slightly under dosed and shows poor quality control on their end. sure you're getting more active compound for your $, but consistency and accuracy is valuable as well.

I see this result as a pretty harsh negative for them, these results means they are pretty much out of the question for female users.
I'm with you, I want accuracy. I hate overdosed items.
 

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I'm with you, I want accuracy. I hate overdosed items.
I personally like it because i KNOW what i have, and can dose accordingly now that i know. But i also will definitely not be ordering anything from them again untill i see better consistency.

this result makes ME happy, and its no skin off my back to cross another supplier off my list.
 

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I can try and downsize them on future uploads. I guess this is a downside of current phones having insanely high rez cameras
At least there's no EXIF data embedded in them. Sometimes your phone will add that by default.
 

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Hey guys,

I recently ordered some Janoshik testing on some oral steroid sources. I figured, for the good of the community, it was best to share them publicly.

This thread will also serve as a collection of any testing I get done in the future, whether it be something I brew myself/raws I get, or stuff I order from other sources. If I get it tested ill be sharing the results here.

Whenever possible I will include a photo of the product and packaging for comparison.

I have no affiliation with any of the sources shown in this thread, and all testing's will be done blind at my own personal expense.

I do not endorse any of the sources presented in this thread, regardless of testing result. One good result does not mean a source is reliable.

This will be valuable info for discernment of legitimacy. I also have photos of testing done on Omega brand, which is legit. Testing was done my satisfied UG buddies who were recipients.
 

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Remember, these results do not act as an endorsement.

50% overdosed is worse than slightly under dosed and shows poor quality control on their end. sure you're getting more active compound for your $, but consistency and accuracy is valuable as well.

I see this result as a pretty harsh negative for them, these results means they are pretty much out of the question for female users.
*most female users. My wife would run that in a heartbeat. She loves high(for female) dose anavar. Now when you say you worry about the consistency are you referring to all pills being overdosed or are you worried you may get a few underdosed? The second is always my fear. I've ran a sponsor and loved their test amd felt great on it but hated all the orals I tried. Cialis viagra var and provi all did nothing.

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*most female users. My wife would run that in a heartbeat. She loves high(for female) dose anavar. Now when you say you worry about the consistency are you referring to all pills being overdosed or are you worried you may get a few underdosed? The second is always my fear. I've ran a sponsor and loved their test amd felt great on it but hated all the orals I tried. Cialis viagra var and provi all did nothing.

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My concern is they are selling almost 16mg var as 10mg.

No one does this on purpose, only way this happens is if they are too careless or are inconsistent with their manufacturing. next batch might be overdosed, next might be very underdosed. point is they arent accurate, so its a coin toss what itll be.

It just shows they dont know what they are doing very well.
 

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this was KOV's response on meso

A few words to test my stuff. Currently to the result 15mg Oxandrolone. All tablets definitely do not contain 15 mg of oxandrolone, it is mathematically impossible because I know how much material was used and how many resulting tablets were.
I used so much material and filler mixture to get 12mg in the tablet. As demonstrated by my test in Jano lab, 12.58mg. My goal has never been and will never have a place of 10mg in a 15mg tablet, which is nonsense from an economic point of view.

But you have to take into account the deviations that can occur in production. Since I use a machine that does not have a pressure filling die, a difference in the weight of the tablet is possible. The stand I use has a variation depending on the size of the tablet and the carrier used, about 4-7% of the weight of the tablet.

Another thing is that the filling ability of the matrix changes during production - the mixture in the tank is condensed by shocks and its flowability changes, so the matrix must be adjusted, depending on the control during production.

The last thing, if I'm starting production, I always need a few tablets, usually a few sieves, to fine-tune the dies. If my tablet is to have 12mg and a total of 300mg, then I will not use everything below 280mg in the batch, as well as everything above 330mg. But these are, as I say, the first few dozen tablets.

basically admit that their process is inherently flawed, and pills will vary in potency.
 
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