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Lol. It’s still a ride.
I’m going crazy over here.
I’m “Papí”, he’s my “bear”. It’s literally insane to me and I feel like I’m spinning out. Seeing this guy twice a week. IDK what I’m doing at all.
Man who gives a fuck! Enjoy it :)
I mean live your life as you fit and try to enjoy every second of it. Try to not hurt anyone on purpose and apart from that have fun ;)
 
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Man who gives a fuck! Enjoy it :)
I mean live your life as you fit and try to enjoy every second of it. Try to not hurt anyone on purpose and apart from that have fun ;)
I think the only thing that will be getting hurt is his b-hole.

In all seriousness i wish you the best of luck @dted23 hope you find yourself, and happiness.
 

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I think the only thing that will be getting hurt is his b-hole.

In all seriousness i wish you the best of luck @dted23 hope you find yourself, and happiness.

I doubt it he’ll be sore…he works out remember?


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This turned out to be a really cool thread. I hope things work out for @dted23. Not going to offer any advice. My experience falls well short of any of this. I married my first and only internet hook up 14 years ago. Still very interested to know how things go.
 

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Dted and I joined around the same time, but I knew pretty early on that he was one of the coolest SOB's on the forum.

This thread proves my initial thoughts about him were 100% spot on.

I'm glad you're in a much better place brother. It truly broke my heart seeing how you were beating yourself up initially. Now it really makes me happy seeing your growth and acceptance.
 

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Dted and I joined around the same time, but I knew pretty early on that he was one of the coolest SOB's on the forum.

This thread proves my initial thoughts about him were 100% spot on.

I'm glad you're in a much better place brother. It truly broke my heart seeing how you were beating yourself up initially. Now it really makes me happy seeing your growth and acceptance.

Oh wow, don’t make it sound like he passed away. “You’re in a much better than place” LOL


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If I don’t post a workout log and don’t say it’s because I am out of town or had an event…
Assume it’s because my guy and we’re simultaneously available and decided to play instead.

E.g. today was a “rest” day. 😜 in which I decided to wear a practice football jersey for game time.

Unrelated; I also made spaghetti AND pizza for my dinner today. So bulk is on track. PRs in lifts. I’m doing much better.

Even if I’m still toying with the idea that this may be a misunderstanding or phase.

I also haven’t seen my therapist in 3 weeks. So while I appreciate the money and time saved, I can’t tell if this is a positive or negative move yet.
 

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Today was really emotional for me, just deep in my feelings. Frustrated and sad.

I started cables for triceps and biceps.

That’s all I did. The I fought tears and left.

I’m really questioning a lot right now in my life.

Nearly everyone is telling me to go “live my truth”. I just don’t think truth is subjective.

I think I know three truths;
1. God made me this way, gay.
2. God loves all of His children.
3. God accepts me, He doesn’t accept living a gay life.

My boss pulled me to the side to ask if I was okay. Because I’m not and I haven’t been for a while.

I told her why I’ve been so sullen and defeated and distant. She said;
1. It’s nobody’s business but yours, you’re fine.
2. Secrets tear you, Dted, apart. You will probably need to come out if you’re going to live with yourself.

I don’t know what I’m doing at all. I’m so sad and feel so alone. No one understands. They’re either on team: pray this out of you or team: your truth is all that matters.
 
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I think I know three truths;
1. God made me this way, gay.
2. God loves all of His children.
3. God accepts me, He doesn’t accept living a gay life.
Dted, this religion ain't working for you. Have you ever thought about challenging any of these beliefs? (Part 2 of number 3 is the one in particular you might want to look at).
 

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I use to have a supervisor that had a transgender partner .. looked really hot, spoke, walked and dressed like a hot chick. He was so happy that she had all the male parts .. as he put it, best of both worlds.
He was a good fella to work with and always happy.
 

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Today was really emotional for me, just deep in my feelings. Frustrated and sad.

I started cables for triceps and biceps.

That’s all I did. The I fought tears and left.

I’m really questioning a lot right now in my life.

Nearly everyone is telling me to go “live my truth”. I just don’t think truth is subjective.

I think I know three truths;
1. God made me this way, gay.
2. God loves all of His children.
3. God accepts me, He doesn’t accept living a gay life.

My boss pulled me to the side to ask if I was okay. Because I’m not and I haven’t been for a while.

I told her why I’ve been so sullen and defeated and distant. She said;
1. It’s nobody’s business but yours, you’re fine.
2. Secrets tear you, Dted, apart. You will probably need to come out if you’re going to live with yourself.

I don’t know what I’m doing at all. I’m so sad and feel so alone. No one understands. They’re either on team: pray this out of you or team: your truth is all that matters.

For many years there were black leaders that fought for their rights. Similarly for many years gay leaders have fought for their rights. With the exception of blind people, everyone knows when you are black. And unfortunately discrimination exists.

You have to look deep to understand what bothers you about it. While you try to understand that, please think about all the gay leaders.
 

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I cried 4x times today.

First, when my boss checked in on me.
Second, when my friend hit me up for dinner.
Third, when a friend called me to see if I was okay.
Fourth, when I called my mom to tell her, I’m not gay in theory but likely actually just gay.

I told my mom that I’m currently seeing someone. That I feel convicted.

I still need to do more weighing. But mom said:
1. I want you to be happy and in a safe loving relationship if that’s what you want.
2. You’re the best man I know, the most disciplined and authentic. You’ll make the right decision.
3. Just don’t be a hoe. Wait until marriage.
4. You ALWAYS beat yourself up. You’ve always been strict on yourself: anxious because you missed a bed time, stressed because you’re not early to an appointment, distraught over a cavity. I suspect your convictions are misplaced because you’re always too hard on yourself.

I think mom is mostly right. I just need to reckon with the Holy Spirit still.
 
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The day ppl will see religion for what it is..... It will never happen so nevermind.

Listen dted Jesus Christ the son of GOD preached love and kindness then men took his words and flipped it creating a long list of rules and what's wrong and what's right.

Come on man, wake the fuck up! If GOD is perfect and loves you he is not a petty retards that would condemn how you live your life even if it was the worse most miserable life.. and you know why? Because he is fucking perfect! And you are not! And he knows it!

BUT you are not living a miserable life, you are living a great life that YOU are making miserable!

Stop beating yourself up! It's 2021 and you are worried of what? That you like to take dicks up your bum? Or that you love wnother man? Love is love my friend. Doesn't matter who you love... Doesn't matter who you fantasise to have sex or spend your life with... What matters is that you don't hurt other ppl and try to be a good person BY YOUR MORAL COMPASS and not other ppl or religion moral compass!

So fucking slap yourself few times, cry as much as you want and then get your pants on or skirt on whatever the fuck you want and go live your life at the fullest without regrets.

NO ONE HAS THE TRUTH IN THEIR HANDS! NO ONE!

get free from all of these religious construct, you can still believe in God but please think of it as a loving omniscient being that it's not there to judge you or tell you what to do but only to hug you and love you no matter what.

Just don't go all serial killer on us please 🤣😘
 

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Today was really emotional for me, just deep in my feelings. Frustrated and sad.

I started cables for triceps and biceps.

That’s all I did. The I fought tears and left.

I’m really questioning a lot right now in my life.

Nearly everyone is telling me to go “live my truth”. I just don’t think truth is subjective.

I think I know three truths;
1. God made me this way, gay.
2. God loves all of His children.
3. God accepts me, He doesn’t accept living a gay life.

My boss pulled me to the side to ask if I was okay. Because I’m not and I haven’t been for a while.

I told her why I’ve been so sullen and defeated and distant. She said;
1. It’s nobody’s business but yours, you’re fine.
2. Secrets tear you, Dted, apart. You will probably need to come out if you’re going to live with yourself.

I don’t know what I’m doing at all. I’m so sad and feel so alone. No one understands. They’re either on team: pray this out of you or team: your truth is all that matters.

What if we want both for you? I’ve told you already how to live both ways.


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Dted, this religion ain't working for you. Have you ever thought about challenging any of these beliefs? (Part 2 of number 3 is the one in particular you might want to look at).

There’s nothing wrong with faith. He was faithful before; making him gay doesn’t change a thing to his faith. What you need to do for him is have faith he comes through this; although faith is something that May not come natural to you
 

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There’s nothing wrong with faith. He was faithful before; making him gay doesn’t change a thing to his faith. What you need to do for him is have faith he comes through this; although faith is something that May not come natural to you
Dted is a strong man; a bit stubborn, but he's still one of the strongest people I've had the honor to know either offline or in person.

I know he will find his answer, even if his journey getting there is filled with bumps or internal be struggle.
 
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I cried 4x times today.

First, when my boss checked in on me.
Second, when my friend hit me up for dinner.
Third, when a friend called me to see if I was okay.
Fourth, when I called my mom to tell her, I’m not gay in theory but likely actually just gay.

I told my mom that I’m currently seeing someone. That I feel convicted.

I still need to do more weighing. But mom said:
1. I want you to be happy and in a safe loving relationship if that’s what you want.
2. You’re the best man I know, the most disciplined and authentic. You’ll make the right decision.
3. Just don’t be a hoe. Wait until marriage.
4. You ALWAYS beat yourself up. You’ve always been strict on yourself: anxious because you missed a bed time, stressed because you’re not early to an appointment, distraught over a cavity. I suspect your convictions are misplaced because you’re always too hard on yourself.

I think mom is mostly right. I just need to reckon with the Holy Spirit still.

Look brother
The. bible is not meant to.be taken literally.

For example
Jesus said
It is better to pluck out thine own eye than to look upon a married woman with lust
(Paraphrasing)

Brah, I'd have lost my eyes YEARS ago.

If you look at ANYTHING Jesus said
Find me ONE PASSAGE that he condemns homosexuality.
I'll wait here (Forever, because it doesn't exist)

Long story short, the old testament says some shit, but the old testament is crazy wrath, doom and gloom

The new Testament is the change of direction for Christianity, the NEW rules, the acceptance of everyone.

So dont let religion stand in the way, Jesus doesnt give a fuck who you sleep with and never said a word about it.
 

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The day ppl will see religion for what it is..... It will never happen so nevermind.

Listen dted Jesus Christ the son of GOD preached love and kindness then men took his words and flipped it creating a long list of rules and what's wrong and what's right.

Come on man, wake the fuck up! If GOD is perfect and loves you he is not a petty retards that would condemn how you live your life even if it was the worse most miserable life.. and you know why? Because he is fucking perfect! And you are not! And he knows it!

BUT you are not living a miserable life, you are living a great life that YOU are making miserable!

Stop beating yourself up! It's 2021 and you are worried of what? That you like to take dicks up your bum? Or that you love wnother man? Love is love my friend. Doesn't matter who you love... Doesn't matter who you fantasise to have sex or spend your life with... What matters is that you don't hurt other ppl and try to be a good person BY YOUR MORAL COMPASS and not other ppl or religion moral compass!

So fucking slap yourself few times, cry as much as you want and then get your pants on or skirt on whatever the fuck you want and go live your life at the fullest without regrets.

NO ONE HAS THE TRUTH IN THEIR HANDS! NO ONE!

get free from all of these religious construct, you can still believe in God but please think of it as a loving omniscient being that it's not there to judge you or tell you what to do but only to hug you and love you no matter what.

Just don't go all serial killer on us please 🤣😘
Seriously, you check more boxes about what the new testament preaches than most people I know. Time to start giving yourself credit where it's due. Every religion has one main goal. The teachings of Jesus is to love and accept unconditionally.

Time for you to see the light that is the students that love you, your family that loves you, and this forum that loves you.

Couldn't agree with @Samp3i more. There is a lot of bullshit rules created by con men around the time the new testament was published. I honestly believe that all that Jesus asks for is love and acceptance.

Do we punish @Samp3i for jerking off while thinking about Jessica's titties? No, because most heterosexual men would be out motorboating those sand bags.
 

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@dted23, not going to quote scripture because although I know what they mean to me, when you read them, G-d is speaking directly to you. He does not change his message, only his delivery to you. You got the right friends guiding you and supporting you in your effort. Continue to have faith because you understand what’s in it for you. Many others have good intent but until they’ve lived in your shoes, could only understand the true issues you are facing.


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