Was bodybuilding better before the rise of social media?

Was bodybuilding better before the rise of social media?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 68.8%
  • No

    Votes: 5 31.3%

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snake

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I would like to hear your reasons, given your history with bodybuilding.
The only good I see coming out of it is there is more information out there. Even that can be bad. I think a lot of guys get spoon-fed too much and they don't take the time to learn their own body. They see all these different movements, different diets and different routines and just try everything.

I think it has affected the pros because they don't get a chance for any downtime. They seem to have to be out in the public eye a lot more.

Social media has destroyed the average person's perception of what is normal. I know we had this with runway models and magazine back then but it wasn't always in your face.

You also did hit on another point. The internet has given everyone a way to own a newspaper.

I do like the forums such as ours. It has given me a chance over the last decade to interact with like minded people and make some good friends; some I have met and even competed with.
 

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Kids in my gym now have no respect for the place. Leave plates on everything. Take selfies. Live on their phones between sets. Many even bring tripods to film their weak ass lifts. They have no shame either. Constantly posing their meager physiques for posting god knows where. Im a bigger guy who gets very lean much of the year and I can never imagine flexing poses in the locker room. Whereas these assholes look like the “before” pics in a magazine ad and are doing most muscular poses. Where does all this unearned confidence come from? It’s from LIKES.

Fuck all that nonsense. Get a work ethic and do something with your life.
 

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Social media has destroyed the average person's perception of what is normal. I know we had this with runway models and magazine back then but it wasn't always in your face....

This can be seen in almost all sports. ie. Oly lifting, PLing, SM, BBing, etc.

People think anyone can squat 700, C&J 400, lift a 400lbs stone, etc... Social media has made it appear that these amazing acts of strength are simple and common. They have no idea the work it takes and even the fact that many will never accomplish what they see on IG and other social media avenues.
 

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The only good I see coming out of it is there is more information out there. Even that can be bad. I think a lot of guys get spoon-fed too much and they don't take the time to learn their own body. They see all these different movements, different diets and different routines and just try everything.

Yeah, it's very overwhelming for a long time. I feel I wasted my early years of lifting being out of shape because I jumped from program to program and diet to diet. The internet will do that to you.

Most younger dudes don't like to accept that simple things often yield the best results.

I think it has affected the pros because they don't get a chance for any downtime. They seem to have to be out in the public eye a lot more.
Great point.

Do you feel that this also downgrades the fan experience? We don't have to wonder what Hadi or Nick Walker will look like at a show because they're already posting their peak weak physiques on Instagram 24/7.

Social media has destroyed the average person's perception of what is normal. I know we had this with runway models and magazine back then but it wasn't always in your face.

You also did hit on another point. The internet has given everyone a way to own a newspaper.

I do like the forums such as ours. It has given me a chance over the last decade to interact with like minded people and make some good friends; some I have met and even competed with.

Thanks for the feedback.

There are a lot of disingenuous "trainers" on social media. Guys on gear who will tell you they only eat clean and take x brand of supplements. It makes guys feel bad when their legitimate hard work and progress doesn't live up to the expectations social media places on them.
 
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I did my first cycle before the internet. Dosage, pinning technique, managing sides, all came from a guy in the gym I didn't know very well. More information and access to scientific literature is ofc a plus but it's probably negated by every idiot spewing bs gear "advice" on TikTok.
 
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Constantly posing their meager physiques for posting god knows where.
I know these guys; they're at the Y every morning before class, a group of 3-4.

They post in the "member's contributions" sections on various porn sites, usually under the MM, MMM, MMF or MFMFM pegging categories. Whatever those are...

Also, for some reason they tack up a temporary picture of Michael Phelps in their lockers everyday. Weird.
 

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I did my first cycle before the internet. Dosage, pinning technique, managing sides, all came from a guy in the gym I didn't know very well. More information and access to scientific literature is ofc a plus but it's probably negated by every idiot spewing bs gear "advice" on TikTok.

There is a big difference between being able to connect to the Internet and knowing how to find useful information. Most of them stay at the first step, that's why they are nothing more than idiots who think they are smart.
 

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Starting strength sport well after social media was already popular I can’t say whether it is better or worse, but I do think in a lot of ways it is helpful. Living in the west when social media was popularized and seeing gyms there vs experiencing a country that doesn’t have as much fitness content really is like night and day.

Imo it’s not so bad. You can find a lot of information, parse out good/bad coaches, talk to folks pretty easy for advice or comparing coaching and PEDS philosophy/protocols and see a lot of competitions and performances by top tier athletes very frequently. While theres a lot of shit, shills and grifters there are also a lot of people who are knowledgeable helpful or at least love to lift.
With online coaching so readily available, I have nothing against tripods as it’s one of the best ways to get professional input. Recording my last sets and getting feedback from my coach and other lifters in group chats online has probably been the single most important factor in helping my technique improve.
Helping some beginner friends keep motivated by asking them to record sets to send via DM for tips & form checks helps keep them accountable & on their programs and does speed up progress a lot.

I think folks in the west complain a lot about gym culture but imo social media largely has made people understand how to act in the gym and make better progress as it’s more common and popular.

I live in a country where it isn’t like that, so seeing the gym culture where the gym isn’t popular sonthere is not much social media content about it is kind of absurd.
People do the absolute dumbest and most retarded no brained shit on a daily basis. they literally have never even seen someone use a machine correctly or understand the point of it and still have egos about how their way is correct. I see guys DAILY using slingshots to do half rom 50kg bench presses, people hanging UPSIDE DOWN in smith machines without the safety on, using wraps for 1/8 squats, and idiots who will get mad if you don’t add weight if you’re going for RPE7 sets “because you can lift heavier” and to “stop being a pussy, and do less sets just do heavier”. Then be unable to bench half the weight on the bar.

without accessible information for the masses people are so beyond fucked it’s unbelievable.
 

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Things were better then for some reasons and better now for some reasons.. it's a wash man.
On one hand, bodybuilding was more hard-core and off limits, pros had big magazine and supplement contracts.. now, any fuck boy can have a following and make a decent earning, gyms.are over crowded with 145 dudes with Chris bumstead staches, but... fans also have more access to pros and pros are able to capitalize and create their own brands and make more money.. I'm a big fan of the Fouad Abiad podcast, I feel like they do a good job in keeping it real.
At the end of the day, shit changes and you have to adapt to it. Jay and Ronnie and many others have and they're more prosperous than ever..whatever pushes the sport along further is good I think. IG itself and the fake natty like Simeon Panda and Mike Ohearn are the ones that fuck it up for the rest of the sport imo
 
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I'm a bit on the fence about this. On one hand I can see many benefits that social media brings. There are some really good coaches out there whom I'd never know or hear about if it weren't for Instagram, etc. I'm thinking I may hire one to help me take my body to the next level. I'll do more research but from the people I follow who endorse one in particular and from his clients' progress photos I'm hoping it's all legit and that the proof is in the pudding. Most are willing to train you long distance. I know it's more or less a form of guidance. Nothing beats actual hands on training with a coach who really knows what he's doing. But I think it's the next best thing when proximity to the coach you want to work with isn't feasible.

I think social media has really stunted most people's ability to interact with quality developed social skills in real life. It's sadly ironic when you think about it. I think it's not only responsible for the decline in good gym etiquette but overall decorum in just about any social setting. Be that as it may, there are some really incredible people I follow on Instagram who have topnotch information to help me on so many levels. One that comes to mind is a guy whose Instagram username is squat_university. Sure, he's there to sell products and coaching but I have learned a lot from him just from the many videos he puts out daily. He's just one example of many that I learn so much from. To provide some perspective, I learned more about how to do a proper squat from him in just a handful of videos versus all the bodybuilding magazines I bought spanning more than a decade. That's hundreds and hundreds of dollars over the years compared to watching a few videos on my phone which cost me nothing.

You have to weed through lots of garbage, which is abundant on social media, but there are some really great people out there who are providing lots of valuable stuff. I'm always learning something of value and I love it.
 
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The only good I see coming out of it is there is more information out there. Even that can be bad. I think a lot of guys get spoon-fed too much and they don't take the time to learn their own body. They see all these different movements, different diets and different routines and just try everything.

I think it has affected the pros because they don't get a chance for any downtime. They seem to have to be out in the public eye a lot more.

Social media has destroyed the average person's perception of what is normal. I know we had this with runway models and magazine back then but it wasn't always in your face.

You also did hit on another point. The internet has given everyone a way to own a newspaper.

I do like the forums such as ours. It has given me a chance over the last decade to interact with like minded people and make some good friends; some I have met and even competed with.
Every time I used to open social like IG I said to myself

WTF

Not knowing how algorithm worked…

Deleted that shit app and all the other ones too
 

RISE

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It was better back in the day. Nowadays every fucking idiot who's been working out for a month straight, has a fucking phone stand, filming themselves working out to post on social media. Motherfuckers have no idea what hard work is and the minute they see a tiny bit of muscle in their frame, they gotta act like a fitness influencer.

You also got a bunch of tards taking gear bc their favorite social media gym rat is. Soon the next generation will all be a bunch of testless pussies bc they blasted their nuts into oblivion all for gains they never had the dedication to retain in the first place.
 
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Hmmm…. I could argue for either side. However I feel social media has done more harm than good. But for a very small percentage I see the availability of knowledge as a big advantage to times past.

It’s not just bodybuilding/powerlifting. It’s gd everything. People will spend countless hours everyday researching shortcuts/gadgetry and going all in on parrot talk. Getting one’s own answers is very rare these days.
 

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I remember when the wheel was invented.

At first a lot of us were vehemently opposed to it.

“Pu$$ies” is what we called the early adapters.

Then we realized it was here to stay, learned to leverage its circular dimensions, and used it to the advancement of humankind
 

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Social media just keeps people from being social.

About the only thing I've come to realize and learn about the world through the interweb and social media is this ,,,, Common sense , ain't really all that common. 😎
 
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I remember when the wheel was invented.

At first a lot of us were vehemently opposed to it.

“Pu$$ies” is what we called the early adapters.

Then we realized it was here to stay, learned to leverage its circular dimensions, and used it to the advancement of humankind
There are a rare few that use it to make a ton of money

Like “the feeder” instead of being “fed”

For me personally, big distraction don’t like my brain 🧠 fcked with constantly

Algorithm just wants people to spend more time on it so platform can exploit and make money of me.
 

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Came here to say this. Social media has F*cked up the world.
Social has fucked society up about as much as guns shoot people.
Social media is just a tool, people have fucked society up.
Nations have become deviant and self destructive long before social media.
 

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You know what social media has done for bodybuilding and powerlifting?
Opened up more people to what is possible to accomplish.
Look at the records that are being smashed.
It’s allowed people to see what bodybuilders eat and how they actually train.
It’s gotten rid of the popularity of a lot of the bs supplements like test boosters.
Kids no longer have to get bs info and workouts from magazines.
Without social media nobody would even know who Jordan Peters is.
Now no longer have Olympia competitors lying claiming they’re natural.
 

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