Whens the best time to use DNP?

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I fast during the day till supper than parcel out the rest of my meals before bed.
Ending the night with high protein shake.

I’m down 35 lbs since may 3rd……… I’m not flat
 

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got heartbroken recently and started my first ever cut, im at 27% bodyfat according to the navy bodyfat calculator and ive already went from 230 to 220 (im 6'4 btw) my maintenance is around 3000 and i eat 1800-2200 with 180g protein every day and I was planning on cutting for the next 3 months and get to 15% by myself and then planned on doing 200mg for 14 days to get to 11-12%. Is this a bad idea? I've been trying to lose weight so desperately and my appetite is non-existent and I really want to see changes right now idk if I should cut down naturally to what I can and then use DNP or do a cycle right now and another one in the winter.
I'm can't mentally picture 6ft4in 220 @27%bf. Anyway I'm not opposed to irresponsible drug use, but for most people I think the goal timeline you set for yourself is unrealistic. If you're doing this for body image issues to show the girl that dumped you it will backfire. I will be more than happy to explain why if you truly want to know.
 
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I'm can't mentally picture 6ft4in 220 @27%bf. Anyway I'm not opposed to irresponsible drug use, but for most people I think the goal timeline you set for yourself is unrealistic. If you're doing this for body image issues to show the girl that dumped you it will backfire. I will be more than happy to explain why if you truly want to know.
yeah please explain further, i can send post pictures idk why you cant imagine 6'4 220 lol
 

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yeah please explain further, i can send post pictures idk why you cant imagine 6'4 220 lol
It's the nearly 30% body fat while being 6'4" and only 220lbs that he can't visualize.

This means not much muscle mass, and a lot of fat. It's hard to imagine someone like this while they self describes themselve "as working hard in the gym".

Post up pictures, let's see what you're working with. Maybe there's an off chance you're not as fat as you think you are... we'll let you know based on what we see.
 
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It's the nearly 30% body fat while being 6'4" and only 220lbs that he can't visualize.

This means not much muscle mass, and a lot of fat. It's hard to imagine someone like this while they self describes themselve "as working hard in the gym".

Post up pictures, let's see what you're working with. Maybe there's an off chance you're not as fat as you think you are... we'll let you know based on what we see.
I look rlly small (muscle wise) in photos but i got 40-41cm arms
 

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yeah please explain further, i can send post pictures idk why you cant imagine 6'4 220 lol
All right this is generalities. When a female dumps a male there's already somebody there taking your place it's just how women work they usually don't just walk away they walk away into somebody or more else's arms. I could almost guarantee you were cheated on before your dumped. So I'm going to assume she left you because she found somebody she thought was better. Why she left you we don't know if she mentioned specifically your physical appearance that's pretty shallow if you believe it's your physical appearance that's an insecurity. So whatever the reason is you believe it's your physical appearance so you're going to bust your ass do everything you can to change that in the hopes of getting this female back well the whole time she's getting railed by 1 or more guys definitely not thinking about you. Fast forward a little now say you have the body image you envision and yall get back together, think about that for a moment she left Chad(s) to go back to you because your body looks better now. Let me tell you something there's always a better looking person than you no matter what and your entire relationship is based off a physical appearance. Now she knows she can manipulate the fuck out of you because you will do extreme shit to get her back or to stop her from leaving. Or she knows she could go fuck whoever she wants and you will beg for her back. Once a woman leaves you for somebody else you walk the fuck away, and no we can't be friends, especially if she tries to come back to you.

You will be far better doing this for yourself and not some girl that dumped you. Because if you're doing it for yourself and wash your hands of this bitch as your body changes you will notice a change in your confidence level and you will probably notice other females starting to pay attention. And when other females start paying your attention your ex might start paying you attention, but don't fucking fall for it she would only be doing it because most people do not like seeing their ex happy with other people. And it is psychologically proven the more desired you are to other females the more attracted your ex-female will be to you. And if you're in a new relationship and you break it off to be with your ex you deserve every fucking bit of miserable shit you will get.
 
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All right this is generalities. When a female dumps a male there's already somebody there taking your place it's just how women work they usually don't just walk away they walk away into somebody or more else's arms. I could almost guarantee you were cheated on before your dumped. So I'm going to assume she left you because she found somebody she thought was better. Why she left you we don't know if she mentioned specifically your physical appearance that's pretty shallow if you believe it's your physical appearance that's an insecurity. So whatever the reason is you believe it's your physical appearance so you're going to bust your ass do everything you can to change that in the hopes of getting this female back well the whole time she's getting railed by 1 or more guys definitely not thinking about you. Fast forward a little now say you have the body image you envision and yall get back together, think about that for a moment she left Chad(s) to go back to you because your body looks better now. Let me tell you something there's always a better looking person than you no matter what and your entire relationship is based off a physical appearance. Now she knows she can manipulate the fuck out of you because you will do extreme shit to get her back or to stop her from leaving. Or she knows she could go fuck whoever she wants and you will beg for her back. Once a woman leaves you for somebody else you walk the fuck away, and no we can't be friends, especially if she tries to come back to you.

You will be far better doing this for yourself and not some girl that dumped you. Because if you're doing it for yourself and wash your hands of this bitch as your body changes you will notice a change in your confidence level and you will probably notice other females starting to pay attention. And when other females start paying your attention your ex might start paying you attention, but don't fucking fall for it she would only be doing it because most people do not like seeing their ex happy with other people. And it is psychologically proven the more desired you are to other females the more attracted your ex-female will be to you. And if you're in a new relationship and you break it off to be with your ex you deserve every fucking bit of miserable shit you will get.
I hear what youre saying bro but this isnt my case I probably shouldnt have said heartbreak LOL i had this friend i had a crush on and told her and she said she used to like me before but not anymore and shes not ready for anyone right now and she'd like to stay friends, biggest thing that fucks with me is im worried she lied about liking me before in order to let me down easy and not hurt me as much which is even more humiliating so it sent me down this rabbit hole, though I was looking into semaglutide and tirz for months and planning to order them before this even happened
 

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I hear what youre saying bro but this isnt my case I probably shouldnt have said heartbreak LOL i had this friend i had a crush on and told her and she said she used to like me before but not anymore and shes not ready for anyone right now and she'd like to stay friends, biggest thing that fucks with me is im worried she lied about liking me before in order to let me down easy and not hurt me as much which is even more humiliating so it sent me down this rabbit hole, though I was looking into semaglutide and tirz for months and planning to order them before this even happened
Sounds like she's in her ho phase, some women feel the need to go through this phase when they're young. The key word she used was anyone, not ready for any one right now. So it's probably happening she told you she used to like you so in your mind there's a chance or like you said letting you down easy but it's probably more to keep you on the back burner. So you're probably a nice guy not an asshole and respectful but that's not what she wants right now, she wants the excitement of the mysterious bad boys to plow through her and when she's done with that you'll hear from her.
 

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I hear what youre saying bro but this isnt my case I probably shouldnt have said heartbreak LOL i had this friend i had a crush on and told her and she said she used to like me before but not anymore and shes not ready for anyone right now and she'd like to stay friends, biggest thing that fucks with me is im worried she lied about liking me before in order to let me down easy and not hurt me as much which is even more humiliating so it sent me down this rabbit hole, though I was looking into semaglutide and tirz for months and planning to order them before this even happened
How old are you, bud?
 

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Hey man, DNP is not going to do much for you at this point, take my word for it.

Given your age and the condition your in, if you get on a solid diet protocol and a good training split with some cardio, you are going to see some really good recomp (yes, at your age and stats, recomp is very possible)

Grab a John Meadows program or something from RP Strength and get after it.
 

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Man you have a lot of really good advice from a lot of really smart and knowledgeable people here. I love dnp but there’s also a really big issue with just taking it unknowingly and thinking you should be to lose fat. You’re trying to lose fat to impress someone or get back and someone… like noted above… fuck her man, this is you. Do the shit for yourself and never look back. Don’t be playing head games with her shit, it’ll never get you anywhere. Take your frustration and start a proper diet, proper training, and run with it. Watch where you’re at in 6mo and then start to reevaluate your thoughts. Dnp is great but it’s not something you want to just use to “lose weigh”… its a tool that shouldnt be taken lightly
 
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You look small because you're a child.

Children are small.

And children should not take potentially dangerous drugs to "get shredded" when a small calorie deficit and good training program will lead to fairly rapid gains.

And be far healthier, and not potentially fatal if mistakes are made.
 

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