Which is the best way for the kids trainings?

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bodyweight 1st? And cardio….

What is the best form of lifting for kids to increase muscle mass… reduce fat and turn them into eventual beasts and boost their confidence?

I ask as my first is an ectomorph big time long limbs, super skinny…like turn him sides ways… he could be a spy…. 😂

While the other is shorter, shorter limbs, outweighs his big bro by 20-30 lbs…carries middle flab, played football last year… hates running, has asthma…


Which way would you train them? One size does not fit all…

I understand getting the lifts down and being fundamentally sound in the lifts…. and im building the homegym….

Bodyweight first?
Couple the bodyweight with low dose lifting ?

My original plan was 5/3/1 for football….

Help me out cause i need to get them training…and its a lot for my brain to process


Just tryin to do my best as a dad, which im not good at… if u knew me ud know this… ive grown lazy AF, over the last 5 yrs…. I sit all day at work and come home and sit more… waiting for the widow-maker….
 

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If your one kid played football, I'm assuming he already has some experience lifting weights?

I think bodyweight exercises are a great way to begin with the ectomorph kid. I was the same way and with that build lifting weights can be a little overwhelming at first. Getting a base of strength and coordination with bodyweight stuff would be a great way to begin IMO.
 

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If your one kid played football, I'm assuming he already has some experience lifting weights?

I think bodyweight exercises are a great way to begin with the ectomorph kid. I was the same way and with that build lifting weights can be a little overwhelming at first. Getting a base of strength and coordination with bodyweight stuff would be a great way to begin IMO.
Nope never lifted weights, first time playing at age 11…. Its a parks and rec big time football, ages 7 and up….

So
Perhaps both need to build strength thru pushups, sit ups, pull ups and maybe a sled drag…. And work in some fundamentals for the lifts…
 

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You asked about 'one size fits all'. I'm going to say that at their age, this is pretty much true. The basics are the basics regardless of body type. Kids don't need to specialize, they need general strength and conditioning. Don't worry about training football players, train young athletes.

I'm all in on the Wendler camp. Can't go wrong with 5/3/1. There is enough variation within where you can tweak and taylor towards specific needs of each boy. I don't know the football program off hand. He has programs that use the main lifts, then bodyweight for assistance. Lift, run, throw and jump, stretch. Squat, Bench, Deadlift, Overhead Press, Pulls, Rows. Note that basics apply to adults as well as kids.

I think it's pretty awesome you are doing this. Way to be a strong father who leads by example. This world is not a young man's world, you have your challenges ahead of you. Teaching them good healthy habits, work ethic and discipline, will help them be better men all around.
 
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So the one that played FB is 12?.
How old is the other..

I would say train them the same way as an adult but tweak everything to fit a youngster.
My nephew is in a baseball team.
I go to practice and watch them.

They do farmers Carrie’s.
The push a sled.
Planks
Box jumps.
I’ve seen them barbell curl but the use one of those plastic weighted sticks.(they look like PVC pipe)
He told me they started benching.

They BW squat or use one of those pipes.
The pipes you can make yourself out of PVC and sand.
The diameter and length dictate how
Much sand.
Then use caps at the end.
So like I said they are doing the same thing we would do to get stronger just modified for a kid.
 

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I don't think there is a best singular way for kids to train.
I think it depends a lot on age.

Training and play have a fine line between them and for younger kids I think it has to be fun for them.

The whole "stunt their growth" nonsense has been pretty much completely debunked, so there isn't anything keeping them from weight training if they have fun with it.

I think general athleticism is probably the best approach for health though, so maybe a more calisthenics approach.
Again depending on age, pre pubescent I'd focus on sport specifics that they enjoy, and just active activities as their "training"
I wouldn't force a prepubescent kid into weight training unless it's something they have fun with
 
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Put them to work, build muscle and character. perfect time to push a wheel barrow and shoulder or bear hug numerous bags of mulch. make it fun.
 

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So the one that played FB is 12?.
How old is the other..

I would say train them the same way as an adult but tweak everything to fit a youngster.
My nephew is in a baseball team.
I go to practice and watch them.

They do farmers Carrie’s.
The push a sled.
Planks
Box jumps.
I’ve seen them barbell curl but the use one of those plastic weighted sticks.(they look like PVC pipe)
He told me they started benching.

They BW squat or use one of those pipes.
The pipes you can make yourself out of PVC and sand.
The diameter and length dictate how
Much sand.
Then use caps at the end.
So like I said they are doing the same thing we would do to get stronger just modified for a kid.
I like this, especially so they get the movement down without injury and they can get the stretch and feel where the lifts are supposed to hit
 

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You asked about 'one size fits all'. I'm going to say that at their age, this is pretty much true. The basics are the basics regardless of body type. Kids don't need to specialize, they need general strength and conditioning. Don't worry about training football players, train young athletes.

I'm all in on the Wendler camp. Can't go wrong with 5/3/1. There is enough variation within where you can tweak and taylor towards specific needs of each boy. I don't know the football program off hand. He has programs that use the main lifts, then bodyweight for assistance. Lift, run, throw and jump, stretch. Squat, Bench, Deadlift, Overhead Press, Pulls, Rows. Note that basics apply to adults as well as kids.

I think it's pretty awesome you are doing this. Way to be a strong father who leads by example. This world is not a young man's world, you have your challenges ahead of you. Teaching them good healthy habits, work ethic and discipline, will help them be better men all around.
Eh im not an active dad like i use to be when they were younger and ive always worked a messed up shift at work so im tryin to make up for lost time, especially with my oldest, he is the skinniest kid ever and needs the weights for self confidence and other areas

The other boy is the football player, younger and outweighs his older brother but he is much shorter so u know how that weight goes…

Its time for me stop making excuses and get to it so they understand how dedicated and fwd moving i use to be. Its a head hanging moment and has been for the past couple yrs as ive gotten lazier and sit around whilst they play video games…. It is time
 
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