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Good point. Even if Israel has not "destroyed" Hamas they have at least mortally wounded them.

I think we can be reasonably certain that most, if not all hamas senior members and leaders have been killed and most of thier extended families, including women, children, cousins, elders etc have been outright murdered in Israeli "precision strikes"

But hamas reputation is now legendary, sinwar for example, as bad as Israeli propaganda tried to act like he died like a dog, the guy actually went out like a straight up gangster badass in a last act of defiance against a sworn enemy

Hamas will have no problems recruiting and rebuilding

But they're out of commission for now

This is an element that is lost on a lot of people. Which is ironic, since Netanyahu has been open about it.



The next 24 hours are going to be very interesting.

Media outlets on all sides really jumped the gun on this one.

What do you think will happen next?

Israel will violate the ceasefire claiming the other side is responsible, refuse to pull out of gaza, increase the illegal settlement expansions in the West Bank and Syria and blame Hezbollah claiming they have to occupy additional territory for "security"

The UN, human rights watch and most of the world will condemn Israel and call for it to stop, Washington will support Israel and eventually another Oct 7 2023 happens again, probably in Golan Heights or the west bank this time and Israel rinse and repeat

we've got a 70 year long pattern here to point to


Come to think of it, no.

Israel is already at war with any possible party.

Israel wants the US to go to war with Iran

Washington is all in, but hasn't figured out how to sell it to us yet

there's still alot of idiots all in for Israel, but not quite enough yet


Thank you, I appreciate that. 👍



I think this is one of the true benefits of social media and modern technology. People are seeing real footage, and having to ask themselves why these things are happening. Figures like Anthony Blinken have to answer to more intense questioning than politicians of the past.

20 years ago, someone would have to go out of their way to even know what the other side of this conversation was.

Most people in America still think Israel is an ally

In the rest of the world, after witnessing the maniacal glee Israel conducted a brutal campaign of sheer terror and mass murder against a captive and defenseless population of women and children, politically Israel will not ever recover and rely more on Washington, bribes, blackmail and treachery to continue to exist as they become more and more isolated from the international community and bring America down with them all they can
 
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Israel will violate the ceasefire claiming the other side is responsible, refuse to pull out of gaza, increase the illegal settlement expansions in the West Bank and Syria and blame Hezbollah claiming they have to occupy additional territory for "security"

The UN, human rights watch and most of the world will condemn Israel and call for it to stop, Washington will support Israel and eventually another Oct 7 2023 happens again, probably in Golan Heights or the west bank this time and Israel rinse and repeat

we've got a 70 year long pattern here to point to

I heard it suggested by someone on France 24 of all places that perhaps Trump is giving Netanyahu the green light to fully annex the West Bank in exchange for accepting the ceasefire deal. That he's convinced Netanyahu he doesn't need Gaza and the West Bank is more worthwhile.



In addition to that, it feels like the seeds are already being planted for the ceasefire not to last:

 

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I heard it suggested by someone on France 24 of all places that perhaps Trump is giving Netanyahu the green light to fully annex the West Bank in exchange for accepting the ceasefire deal. That he's convinced Netanyahu he doesn't need Gaza and the West Bank is more worthwhile.



In addition to that, it feels like the seeds are already being planted for the ceasefire not to last:


I think the most important thing to understand is that the modern political state of Israel doesn't want peace, or a ceasefire

They're totally dedicated to bringing about thier idea of "the kingdom of heaven on earth" which, in thier minds means ruling the world from Jerusalem as the chosen ones sitting on the right hand of God, with the rest of humanity serving thier purpose and indulgences. Like paving the streets with gold for example

They totally deny Jesus Christ and his teaching of the way to peace is not through war, but through brotherhood and compassion, mercy and understanding.

None of this means anything to the Israeli's or the elites, who just believe it's thier birthright and destiny to rule the earth and it's people's beside a militant type god that serves them collectively and will punish those who stand in the way
In stark contrast to our God and savior who told us to love thy neighbors as we love ourselves

It's hard for an American raised on Christian values as we all are to understand this concept because it's totally alien to everything we hold as truth and righteousness, because we believe that the goal is brotherhood, compassion, mercy and understanding

It's game on bud.

There's no neutral from here on. There's no more compromise with people who refuse to compromise and respect others rights as human beings and equals with a stake in the future and faith that mankind can serve for the good of mankind

Interesting times for sure.

If political Israel and zionism succeeds, then we'll all eventually be Palestinians
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I'd like to point out to anybody listening that this malevolent bastard has promoted war, human suffering and misery all over the world to benifit his corporate donors and Israeli lobbyists

And every man he's doomed to die for his profit and his handlers is worth at least 100 of him and them based on thier desires and ambitions to promote evil for financial gains and prestige

This motherfucker is a straight up treasonous dog to every principle we hold dear as American men

Just see this bothers. And know it

That's all I ask

 
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Just when you're becoming convinced that just about all of humanity sucks ass , something like this comes to you .... and you realize you were very very wrong.

 

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The truth is, it's America first and nothing else
 

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And after mass murdering a captive population of defenseless women and children, somehow still claim they're the victims


This is why I don't think the ceasefire will last.

I thought it was inexcusable for Hamas to remain in power in any capacity. But recent reports show they're the main ones still running Gaza.

What do you think happens once phase one is over and the hostages are home?
 

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This is why I don't think the ceasefire will last.

I thought it was inexcusable for Hamas to remain in power in any capacity. But recent reports show they're the main ones still running Gaza.

What do you think happens once phase one is over and the hostages are home?

What always happened before

Israel will refuse to pull out completely while claiming additional territory for "security reasons" while simultaneously promoting illegal settlements in those territories to create violence and chaos so they can step with military units and murder or expel any Palestinians resisting the illegal settlements

There will be violations and charges brought against Israel on behalf of the international community, but the US will shield Israel from any retribution or punishment for what they've done or will do to sieze additional territory during the chaos they'll create

Like I keep saying, hamas isn't going anywhere. They may change names, leadership or whatever, but as long as Israel keeps millions of people locked up these compounds and denies them freedom of movement and basic human rights, there will always be a hamas

And if zionism succeeds in Palestine, then eventually we'll all be Palestinians with rich overlords owning everything

The hope and differences here to me is that for the first time in my nearly 50 years of life, I'm seeing changes and more and more people are aware everyday. The boomer undying support of Israel due to backwards bizarre interpretation of bible history and old war propaganda will obviously die with them.

It doesn't work on anybody else anymore. More people understand what Israel is doing and not believing what media is selling

The globalist elites now have very strong opposition against them that's determined to resist and so far they haven't been able to sell war to thier subjects against thier opposition

We're in a very pivotal moment here. If we can just prevent Israel from dragging us into war with Iran, we might have a chance.

They can't wait very long to make a move either because Israel in Gaza has destroyed its own goodwill in the world and most of America's too for supporting them. Thier influence is waning while resistance is growing

The resistance factions like hamas and Hezbollah are going to easily recruit and gain support from other world players on the sidelines now and will get stronger very quickly

Russia has defeated the mighty nato in Ukraine and Washington/Israel have few choices left except to expand the scope of the war to a new theater or admit defeat and make concessions. Washington is divided on this, while Israel is salivating at the prospect of expanding war into Iran. Israel holds more power in Washington than anyone else, but resistance is growing fast
 

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Didn't we already establish this bill has in fact, not been passed

the fact it's even being put on the floor is a testament to the power of Israeli lobby in America

Its insane that American taxpayers money should pay foreign military benefits
 

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I told y'all the bastard lied to us didn't I?

In one week the cocksucker rushed shipments of weapons to Israel, proposed relocation of the Palestinians by force so that Israel can take over gaza, while his own son in law investments in israeli construction development firms preparing to take over gaza

The cocksucker lied liked a dog, right to our fucking faces about that America first BS and is diving headlong into the middle east to provide money, muscle and lives for Israeli ambitions

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You cannot, ever, ever, trust what a zionist says

They're all liars
 

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theres going to be alot of BIG changes coming and im excited about this country being turned around back to where it should be.
 

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