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So much for no wars, no foreign aid and America first

His core base seems to approve of the idea anyway. Not sure if they're oblivious to the fact that it flies in the face of those ideals, or if they just make an exception for this.
 
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His core base seems to approve of the idea anyway. Not sure if they're oblivious to the fact that it flies in the face of those ideals, or if they just make an exception for this.
It's easy to frame as "fighting terrorism" rather than foreign aid. Just don't mention the portion of US money funding the same terrorism.
 

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It's easy to frame as "fighting terrorism" rather than foreign aid. Just don't mention the portion of US money funding the same terrorism.

You're absolutely right.

But it still amuses me that his core base is so quick to criticize Bush or Obama "fighting terrorism" while acting like it's completely different when Trump does it.
 

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No she wasn't at all but she's better than a russian asset rapist that can't put two sentences together without lying.

He's an Israeli asset yang

Not a Russian one
 

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His core base seems to approve of the idea anyway. Not sure if they're oblivious to the fact that it flies in the face of those ideals, or if they just make an exception for this.
His core supporters will literally support him no matter what he does.

— Talk about starting a sovereign fund? Suddenly they’re OK with socialism.

— Campaign on not getting involved in other people’s wars? Plan to occupy Gaza to help out Israel and his supporters are totally on board.

— Talk about banning abortion at the federal level? Suddenly state’s rights don’t matter so much.

— Try to ban birthright citizenship? Suddenly the strict constitutionalists are OK with ignoring the 14th amendment.

The shit he is trying to do is exactly what many of his supporters were completely against not even a month ago. But when it’s Trump doing it, it’s suddenly OK.

It’s fucking crazy shit man. I’ve never seen so many people completely compromise their morals so quickly… unless they didn’t actually care about any of these things in the first place and just used the issues as convenient talking points.
 

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His core supporters will literally support him no matter what he does.

— Talk about starting a sovereign fund? Suddenly they’re OK with socialism.

— Campaign on not getting involved in other people’s wars? Plan to occupy Gaza to help out Israel and his supporters are totally on board.

— Talk about banning abortion at the federal level? Suddenly state’s rights don’t matter so much.

— Try to ban birthright citizenship? Suddenly the strict constitutionalists are OK with ignoring the 14th amendment.

The shit he is trying to do is exactly what many of his supporters were completely against not even a month ago. But when it’s Trump doing it, it’s suddenly OK.

Great points. I'll try to bring a few of these up next time I'm in one of these discussions with the Trump supporters I know.

The sovereign wealth fund is the most ironic one to me, since "socialism" and "Communism" are such key buzzwords for the Trump supporters.

It’s fucking crazy shit man. I’ve never seen so many people completely compromise their morals so quickly… unless they didn’t actually care about any of these things in the first place and just used the issues as convenient talking points.

I'm guessing for a lot of them, their belief in constitutional rights is outweighed by their personal opinions on abortion, changing demographics, the Israel/Palestine conflict and more.

On other things (such as the Russia/Ukraine conflict), I think that most people don't have much of an opinion at all. If they like Trump, they will just blindly follow what he says even though he has demonstrated little knowledge or consistency in where he stands on these issues.
 

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His core supporters will literally support him no matter what he does.

— Talk about starting a sovereign fund? Suddenly they’re OK with socialism.

— Campaign on not getting involved in other people’s wars? Plan to occupy Gaza to help out Israel and his supporters are totally on board.

— Talk about banning abortion at the federal level? Suddenly state’s rights don’t matter so much.

— Try to ban birthright citizenship? Suddenly the strict constitutionalists are OK with ignoring the 14th amendment.

The shit he is trying to do is exactly what many of his supporters were completely against not even a month ago. But when it’s Trump doing it, it’s suddenly OK.

It’s fucking crazy shit man. I’ve never seen so many people completely compromise their morals so quickly… unless they didn’t actually care about any of these things in the first place and just used the issues as convenient talking points.


Absolutely bat shit fucking crazy

We went from Trump making a promise ending the forever wars in the middle east, and stop making enemies and threats, to the permanent occupation of gaza in order to threaten Israel's enemies directly and stir the pot on forever wars, and just like the flip of a switch suddenly they're all for it.

Un fucking believable

We're so fucked
 

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It's pretty funny that Trump spent the past year and a half calling Netanyahu an "idiot" but now he's calling him an "amazing leader."

The bastard went from promising to end the wars in the middl east, to occupying gaza to help Israel fight them

Bibi went from being a warmongering idiot, to putting a collar on all of congress and bibi holding the leash

Disgusting
 

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The bastard went from promising to end the wars in the middl east, to occupying gaza to help Israel fight them

On top of that, he's back to threatening Iran again too.

A full scale war with Iran would be our biggest war since Vietnam.


Bibi went from being a warmongering idiot, to putting a collar on all of congress and bibi holding the leash

Disgusting

Is it now fair to say the ceasefire right before Inauguration Day was more of a publicity stunt than anything else?
 

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On top of that, he's back to threatening Iran again too.

A full scale war with Iran would be our biggest war since Vietnam.




Is it now fair to say the ceasefire right before Inauguration Day was more of a publicity stunt than anything else?
Flim-flam is the name of the game. You know those “concessions” that Canada and Mexico put into place to “avoid the tariffs”?

Yeah, they were already agreed to during Biden’s term. Not a fucking thing to do with this administration. He’s fleecing the country and people eat it up.
 

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His core supporters will literally support him no matter what he does.

— Talk about starting a sovereign fund? Suddenly they’re OK with socialism.

— Campaign on not getting involved in other people’s wars? Plan to occupy Gaza to help out Israel and his supporters are totally on board.

— Talk about banning abortion at the federal level? Suddenly state’s rights don’t matter so much.

— Try to ban birthright citizenship? Suddenly the strict constitutionalists are OK with ignoring the 14th amendment.

The shit he is trying to do is exactly what many of his supporters were completely against not even a month ago. But when it’s Trump doing it, it’s suddenly OK.

It’s fucking crazy shit man. I’ve never seen so many people completely compromise their morals so quickly… unless they didn’t actually care about any of these things in the first place and just used the issues as convenient talking points.

Netanyahu was the first to congratulate Biden on the 2020 election when Trump and the right called it rigged. He was also the first world leader to mandate the (0% effective) vaccine or else you couldn’t go into a grocery store to buy food.

It seems like everyone has such a short memory

Just like Zuckerberg and Bezos hanging out with Trump now despite them controlling Facebook and TheWashingtonPost who did everything they could to lie and suppress the truth. Not only that but they pushed tons of DEI bullshit throughout their companies.

Trump supporters tell me it’s “5D chess” and “keeping his enemies closer” or “at least it’s Bette than Kamala”

If I learned anything (especially since Covid), it’s that politicians, celebrities, billionaires are all teamed up against 99.999% of the population. Surely a billionaire/celebrity/politician who is now teaming up with more billionaires and celebrities, is NOT WORKING AGAINST THEM

If anyone still thinks any politician cares about you and isn’t a puppet, then they need to wake up from under their rock
 

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If anyone still thinks any politician cares about you and isn’t a puppet, then they need to wake up from under their rock
That’s the absolute truth right there my man.

People need to stop treating politics like some fucking retarded zero-sum team sport. Any of these greasy fucks would have your entire family burnt alive in front of you if it would benefit them and they knew they could get away with it.
 
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Some of the things our tax dollars were going towards. Thankfully Doge is cleaning this up
4 million for lgbt causes in western balkans
5.5 million for lgbt activism in Uganda
2 million for sex changes in Guatemala
6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
20 million on Iraq Seasame show
And that’s just tip of iceberg
 

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Some of the things our tax dollars were going towards. Thankfully Doge is cleaning this up
4 million for lgbt causes in western balkans
5.5 million for lgbt activism in Uganda
2 million for sex changes in Guatemala
6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
20 million on Iraq Seasame show
And that’s just tip of iceberg

I'm all for cleaning up our finances, but those things listed make up only 0.00005% of the budget. I hope they target some meaningful waste, too.
 
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I'm all for cleaning up our finances, but those things listed make up only 0.00005% of the budget. I hope they target some meaningful waste, too.
So you think we should still provide the money for these projects? So far Doge has cut 1 billion in waste
 

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