Anyone else an under responder to testosterone?

Dtren800 · Apr 10, 2024

Total testosterone was below 1200 on 300mgs of total testosterone a week… bloods were taken 3 hours after injection. Free testosterone is almost 50% of total testosterone. I’ve been this way pretty much my entire life, anything below 250mgs feels like being below natural in terms of quality of life and performance. I tend to shrink a lot when I go down to a traditional cruise/trt dosage, and strength goes down a lot. Night and day difference vs a blast. So for this reason I tend to always stay at 300mgs.. even during my blast since I don’t need much testosterone to reach my goals for now. When I was younger I used to cruise at 500mgs… which usually kept me around 3200ngdl. 130mgs keeps my total test around 600ngdl. SHBG is always very low, on cycle around 5-10, the highest I ever got it was around 12 during a 3 month cruise.

Send0 · Apr 10, 2024

can't speak to under responding... from a hormone numbers perspective I've always had good response.

Your free is high though, which is what matters more than anything.

Have you tested your SHBG by any chance?

Dtren800 · Apr 10, 2024

I always have very high free test, low total test. And I have not but I know it’s in the gutter

CJ · Apr 10, 2024

I've found that my total test number is a multiple of 6 for the dose I take, up to 250 mgs.

So if I use 200 mgs, I pull a 1200.
If I use 150 mg, it's 900.

Anything higher, I get the >1500 result.

crido887 · Apr 10, 2024

I would ask where you are getting your gear?

Dtren800 · Apr 10, 2024

crido887 said:
I would ask where you are getting your gear?

Very reputable private source I’ve been using for the last 2 years. Works with a lot of bodybuilders and research companies. Even when I was using gear from Eroids, same thing. Total testosterone is always on the lower end. I keeping a lean 240 pounds so I’m not complaining.

Dtren800 · Apr 10, 2024

CJ said:
I've found that my total test number is a multiple of 6 for the dose I take, up to 250 mgs.

So if I use 200 mgs, I pull a 1200.
If I use 150 mg, it's 900.

Anything higher, I get the >1500 result.

Ahh I see… must be because my shbg is so low. I’ve pulled a high 900 on 200mgs… but 300mgs now I’m just under 1200.

crido887 · Apr 10, 2024

Dtren800 said:
Very reputable private source I’ve been using for the last 2 years. Works with a lot of bodybuilders and research companies. Even when I was using gear from Eroids, same thing. Total testosterone is always on the lower end. I keeping a lean 240 pounds so I’m not complaining.

as long as its not that stupid europharmacies.

Dtren800 · Apr 10, 2024

crido887 said:
as long as its not that stupid europharmacies.

No I was only using the Sten from them, which I later found out to be was Msten. I’ve moved on to just primobolan, test, and Pharma HGH. That’s all I will be running for the foreseeable future until I need to run more, etc contest prep. I’ve had my own source for 2 years now

crido887 · Apr 10, 2024

Dtren800 said:
No I was only using the Sten from them, which I later found out to be was Msten. I’ve moved on to just primobolan, test, and Pharma HGH. That’s all I will be running for the foreseeable future until I need to run more, etc contest prep. I’ve had my own source for 2 years now

Which pharma GH you running now? you like it better?

Yano · Apr 10, 2024

Good to see ya stopping in , been following the vlog , nice work man.

Dtren800 · Apr 10, 2024

crido887 said:
Which pharma GH you running now? you like it better?

Pharma genotropin, and oh yeah 100% better. Way more convenient, and despite what people say about generics and Pharma being the same, I notice the Pharma a lot more especially at half the dosage I used to run with generics. I hate having to constantly prepare the vials, and a single pen will last me about 2 weeks.

Dtren800 · Apr 10, 2024

Yano said:
Good to see ya stopping in , been following the vlog , nice work man.

Thanks man

crido887 · Apr 10, 2024

Dtren800 said:
Pharma genotropin, and oh yeah 100% better. Way more convenient, and despite what people say about generics and Pharma being the same, I notice the Pharma a lot more especially at half the dosage I used to run with generics. I hate having to constantly prepare the vials, and a single pen will last me about 2 weeks.

I do this with my serostim. 3 vials at once.

CohibaRobusto · Apr 11, 2024

My cruise dose of 250mg/wk almost always puts my test level at 1100. Free test was 435 this last time.

CohibaRobusto · Apr 11, 2024

Dtren800 said:
No I was only using the Sten from them, which I later found out to be was Msten. I’ve moved on to just primobolan, test, and Pharma HGH. That’s all I will be running for the foreseeable future until I need to run more, etc contest prep. I’ve had my own source for 2 years now

You gave up on the msten completely? I'm just now giving it another shot. I got sick the first time I tried it but I think it was unrelated to the compound.

Dtren800 · Apr 11, 2024

CohibaRobusto said:
My cruise dose of 250mg/wk almost always puts my test level at 1100. Free test was 435 this last time.

Pretty similar to me but a bit better. 250mgs put my total test at 950 and my free test at 450. And yeah no more msten… it didn’t give me much sides at all besides my cholesterol… which was 3x as worse as it is now on a similar dose of primobolan, which almost has my cholesterol in range. Loved the results of msten but it isn’t a compound to be utilized long term. Definitely have to treat it with respect. Results similar to superdrol.

buck · Apr 11, 2024

How many times a week are you injecting to get in the 300mg.

Dtren800 · Apr 11, 2024

buck said:
How many times a week are you injecting to get in the 300mg.

Always twice

TomJ · Apr 11, 2024

What does Bloodwork look like on a true trough at your dose of 300mg?

with only 3 hours post injections its possible that youre looking at results more similar to trough than peak serum levels.

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