Fat burner options

[Migmaster]

I'm still running tren a and so far so good. Waist is smaller, strength is good even at calorie deficit. Maintaining cardio but have noticed some of the infamous tren fatigue I have heard about. I won't add fat burners to tren in concern might just be too much for me at 47. After tren cycle if I still have some stubborn fat to try to rid myself of what would you all recommend. Clen, t3, dnp, ephedrine? This would only be used with increased cardio and calorie deficit. Are any of these safe at 47. Bp normal, hr around 75. Sure you all have been asked this before but I would rather have a little fat remain and be alive vs low bf in a casket.

 

[CJ]

If you're not competing, there's no need to put these harmful(some very) substances in your body.

Just do the right way. No shortcuts. Put in the work.

 

[Migmaster]

That's the direction I am leaning. Really not crazy about the idea of stimulation to that degree. Thanks

 

[CJ]

That's the direction I am leaning. Really not crazy about the idea of stimulation to that degree. Thanks

Many have taken clen, myself included, and despise it. I don't think that I lasted a week before I quit taking it.

Read this recent thread about T3...
https://www.ugbodybuilding.com/threads/read-this.36834/

A bunch have used DNP, but it's dangerous, respect it or you could die.

Ephederine I'm not too sure about, never really been on my radar.

 

[Migmaster]

Yeah that thyroid isn't something to play with. Well thank you and we can end this thread. I don't mind treadmill and bike enough to put myself at risk

 

[bvs]

Clen and t3 are very overrated in my opinion. Clen gives me side effects and t3 burns through muscle as well as fat, so not ideal. DNP works fantastic but is by far the most dangerous fat burner of them all. The single most effective thing is diet followed by cardio

 

[Charger69]

I was on clen, ephedrine, caffeine, and T3. I was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation.
Now I am damned for life taking meds. The problem is it can come and go. Dr has not detected it, but it doesn’t mean that I don’t have it.


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[Migmaster]

Well brother I hope it doesn't cause you any serious problems. Meds, ablation can help which I am sure you are aware of. Do you take blood thinners or at least aspirin

 

[Trump]

DNP is the only thing on that list that I would use, nothing against ephedrine I just don’t like stimulants. Clen is shit t3 sucks monkeys nut sack.

Only thing with dnp is stay on moderation I see too many people on here taking 400mg from the off and wanting to up it after 3 days. 200/250mg for week to 10 days is the max anyone should consider first few runs. I not recommending dnp I just explaining how it should be done for a beginner if you take that path.

Also to add without lifestyle changes to your training and diet the fat will come back in no time at all

 

[transcend2007]

Time and consistency ... there are no need for any of the things you mentioned ... men lose fat rapidly while on a calorie deficit diet and additional cardio ... no one gains fat overnight ... it happens over months and years ... to lose it permanently slow loss (no more than 2 lbs per week) is best ... also track calories with MyFitnessPal and do not miss workouts ... even if you have 30 to 50 pounds to lose all you will need is 3 to 6 months ... done through diet and cardio you'll learn to make the necessary lifestyle modifications ... do not be looking for a quick fix (pill or drug) ... put in the work and earn your 6 pack ... do it the right way and keep it for life ...

 

[Migmaster]

Yeah I use my fitness pal. Recommend for anyone trying to drop weight or even gain weight. It'll keep you honest

 

[JAXNY]

Cardio and a super clean diet is the best way to go.
If you feel that you need some extra help, then ephedrine is your safest of the list.
ECA- Ephedrine, caffeine aspirin stack.
20mg Ephedrine. 200mg caffeine and 325 aspirin.
I've used this a few times a long time ago only when Clen wasn't available.
Clenbuteral imo works well.
The problem is there is alot of junk out there that are nothing more than stimulants claiming to be Clen.
If you have real Clen there is no reason to be highly jittery from it. Those people are taking too high of a dosage.
You start day one with only 20mcg.
Next day up it to 40mcg.
If all feels well, then day 3 you up it to 60mcg
And you continue until you do feel a little jitter, and then you back it off by 20mcg until it's tolerable for you.
Usually 80-120mcg works well. 3 to 4 weeks max.
Everyone's tolerance is different. Don't jack it up to 100 mcg because someone else said that's the dosage that they are doing. You personally may or may not tolerate that.
That's why you step it up day by day until you reach your max tolerable level.
People who say they can't tolerate clen because they are too jacked up and jittery are either taking too high of a dosage or they have fake clen which is usually just a stimulant.

 

[Adrenolin]

After tren cycle if I still have some stubborn fat to try to rid myself of what would you all recommend. Clen, t3, dnp, ephedrine?

Yes! All of it. Test, tren, clen, t3, dnp and ephedrine

 

[lifter6973]

Yes! All of it. Test, tren, clen, t3, dnp and ephedrine

The least harmful as far as side effects is likely the ephedrine. You can get away with just 12.5 mg a pop in an ephedrine/250 mg caffeine/325 aspirin stack. If you have never used ephedrine, I say start with this 30 min before workout. Some do this three times a day. Old school protocol was with 25 mg ephedrine. If you keep the daily dose low, you can burn fat and keep the vast majority of your strength.
You go high, you will get the jittery shit feeling.
Try it PWO for a week or two and see how it treats you. You should be able to get Primatene or generic at Walgreens. Cheapest caffeine and aspirin tabs seem to be WalMart or online.

 

[Trump]

The least harmful as far as side effects is likely the ephedrine. You can get away with just 12.5 mg a pop in an ephedrine/250 mg caffeine/325 aspirin stack. If you have never used ephedrine, I say start with this 30 min before workout. Some do this three times a day. Old school protocol was with 25 mg ephedrine. If you keep the daily dose low, you can burn fat and keep the vast majority of your strength.
You go high, you will get the jittery shit feeling.
Try it PWO for a week or two and see how it treats you. You should be able to get Primatene or generic at Walgreens. Cheapest caffeine and aspirin tabs seem to be WalMart or online.

What are the harmful side effects from 200mg dnp?

 

[Adrenolin]

Yes! All of it. Test, tren, clen, t3, dnp and ephedrine

 

[lifter6973]

What are the harmful side effects from 200mg dnp?

Im not clear on that and it seems to depend on how long you take it. Supposedly if you overdo it you can raise your body temperature to dangerous levels. Can supposedly also cause cataracts.
IMO DNP is more dangerous especially since it is not an OTC product. You never know for sure the dose you are getting. With the ephedrine OTC at least you know for sure the dosage should be accurate.

 

[lifter6973]

Good lord! Who has this. This would probably = death for my old ass.

 

[Migmaster]

I saw another combo that combines anadrol, dbol and winstrol at 33 mg each per capsule. But yes I have seen fat burner combos like this by couple of labs

 

[Adrenolin]

Good lord! Who has this. This would probably = death for my old ass.

The first one, with the injectable dnp/clen was called Nuke. I used it several years ago.. definitely a legit product, but was definitely nervous that first pin not knowing what to expect.

I saw another combo that combines anadrol, dbol and winstrol at 33 mg each per capsule. But yes I have seen fat burner combos like this by couple of labs

Aside from diet and cardio, as far as compounds effective for fat loss, in my experience dnp is #1 but having said that, I'd still opt for methyl tren... its like tren on steroids. Builds muscle and strength whilst simultaneously burning fat fast. It's definitely harsh and is gonna make you feel lethargic after a week or two but not like a steaming pile of dog shit like dnp will do to you