Low dose tren

[Cochino]

The dose makes the poison
Tren isn’t inherently harsh people just take way too much.
I don’t think standing on stage for a plastic trophy is anymore reason than because someone simply wants to.

Okay, well what would that dose be in your opinion? Per FDA regulations it is intended for feedlot cattle intended for slaughter mixed with feed at 150 mg/ton.

Keep in mind they start these cattle out at 800 lbs and they will consume an average of 30 lbs of feed per day which equates to roughly 250 lbs feed per week. Do the math and that is not a lot of Finaplex.

I know this doesn't necessarily equate to human usage, but it is not approved for your herd bull or Bessie the milk cow or any other species except cattle that are going to their death in 120 days.


What do you think would be a safe dose for a bodybuilders? Duration and how many cycles could they run.

 

[RiR0]

Okay, well what would that dose be in your opinion? Per FDA regulations it is intended for feedlot cattle intended for slaughter mixed with feed at 150 mg/ton.

Keep in mind they start these cattle out at 800 lbs and they will consume an average of 30 lbs of feed per day which equates to roughly 250 lbs feed per week. Do the math and that is not a lot of Finaplex.

I know this doesn't necessarily equate to human usage, but it is not approved for your herd bull or Bessie the milk cow or any other species except cattle that are going to their death in 120 days.


What do you think would be a safe dose for a bodybuilders? Duration and how many cycles could they run.

Well we’re not cattle. What nonhuman animals take and how they process drugs doesnt matter much when comes to hormones.
Parabolan which was made for humans was dosed at 76mg per amp.

The answer is there is no best answer because it’s individual.
I can run 100-200 mg tren a weekly for a year probably more without any negative effect on blood work.
That’s me for someone else it’s going to be different.
You’re asking questions which don’t have a blanket one size fits all answer.
I can run almost a gram of test with no ai.
Some guys can’t 150 without needing one.

 

[MrRogers]

I'm gonna go against the grain here. Why do people feel the need to run tren unless you're going to compete? It's a fucking harsh drug . I just don't get it.

Okay I'm ready for the shit posts.

As others have said, I don't think there is another compound quite like it. In addition, I got my labs back today after an 11 week run of T E at 200mg. HDL was low but only a few points outside of normal limits. Everything else was WNL. Despite feeling fine, this set of labs worried me and I pulled them a bit early because of it. Pleasantly surprised. I did run organ protection and cardarine 20 throughout.

I was working with a coach at the start of this cycle. Top 5 Arnold Classic finisher. Everyone says to start with Ace as you can pull the rip cord if you get into trouble. His advice was low dose T E. I was totally hesitant and almost ran Ace and didn't say anything. End of the day though, he looks like he does and I look like I do. Also makes no sense to me to hire a coach and do what you want to do.

 

[Cochino]

Well we’re not cattle. What nonhuman animals take and how they process drugs doesnt matter much when comes to hormones.
Parabolan which was made for humans was dosed at 76mg per amp.

The answer is there is no best answer because it’s individual.
I can run 100-200 mg tren a weekly for a year probably more without any negative effect on blood work.
That’s me for someone else it’s going to be different.
You’re asking questions which don’t have a blanket one size fits all answer.
I can run almost a gram of test with no ai.
Some guys can’t 150 without needing one.

No, I'm asking questions because I don't have any experience like you do. There's too many guys out here running it that don't need to and still look like shit, but that could be said with all steroids.

My question was purely for harm reduction.

 

[RiR0]

No, I'm asking questions because I don't have any experience like you do. There's too many guys out here running it that don't need to and still look like shit, but that could be said with all steroids.

My question was purely for harm reduction.

I’d say 100-200mg a week for 6-10 weeks

 

[BRICKS]

I'm gonna go against the grain here. Why do people feel the need to run tren unless you're going to compete? It's a fucking harsh drug . I just don't get it.

Okay I'm ready for the shit posts.

No shit post, I'll just give you the same answer I gave my buddy when he asked me why run AAS if I'm not going to compete. I asked him, should only pornstars and strippers get implants? Just cause you don't compete, you can't develop an elite level physique?

Now, I've got to add, I've seen a lot of guys using way bigger doses of stuff then necessary considering the pictures I've seen which are just not impressive at all considering the amount of shit they're using (and I'm being kind here). Somebody posted above their coach was a top 5 Arnold finisher, looks like he does , they look like they do (alluding to the AAS). The gear has very little to do with that. Their coach trains, eats, lives the lifestyle and has the genetics they do, and so on....

On a side note, everyone's objective should be to use as little of the exogenous junk as possible to achieve the desired result. At least that's my philosophy with respect to the subject. I'll bet close to 100% of the big pros will tell you you don't need a gram of test, or 600mg/week tren, etc...I may be wrong, but I bet I'm not. But don't think you're at any more risk for taking tren or any less risk for taking test or mast. They carry the same risks. The little side effects specific to tren, night sweats, insomnia, etc....those are annoyances, not risks. I don't know of any case of a person dropping dead from night sweats. Heart attack, stroke, kidney failure, nobody seems to mention that. Risks that come with every single AAS. But damn those risky night sweats.....

OP, think of tren vs test or other AAS like whiskey versus beer. Is whiskey more "harsh" than beer? No, you're not supposed to drink it like you'd drink beer.

 

[Texan69]

No shit post, I'll just give you the same answer I gave my buddy when he asked me why run AAS if I'm not going to compete. I asked him, should only pornstars and strippers get implants? Just cause you don't compete, you can't develop an elite level physique?

Now, I've got to add, I've seen a lot of guys using way bigger doses of stuff then necessary considering the pictures I've seen which are just not impressive at all considering the amount of shit they're using (and I'm being kind here). Somebody posted above their coach was a top 5 Arnold finisher, looks like he does , they look like they do (alluding to the AAS). The gear has very little to do with that. Their coach trains, eats, lives the lifestyle and has the genetics they do, and so on....

On a side note, everyone's objective should be to use as little of the exogenous junk as possible to achieve the desired result. At least that's my philosophy with respect to the subject. I'll bet close to 100% of the big pros will tell you you don't need a gram of test, or 600mg/week tren, etc...I may be wrong, but I bet I'm not. But don't think you're at any more risk for taking tren or any less risk for taking test or mast. They carry the same risks. The little side effects specific to tren, night sweats, insomnia, etc....those are annoyances, not risks. I don't know of any case of a person dropping dead from night sweats. Heart attack, stroke, kidney failure, nobody seems to mention that. Risks that come with every single AAS. But damn those risky night sweats.....

OP, think of tren vs test or other AAS like whiskey versus beer. Is whiskey more "harsh" than beer? No, you're not supposed to drink it like you'd drink beer.

Very good points Bricks

 

[MrRogers]

shit they're using (and I'm being kind here). Somebody posted above their coach was a top 5 Arnold finisher, looks like he does , they look like they do (alluding to the AAS). The gear has very little to do with that. Their coach trains, eats, lives the lifestyle and has the genetics they do, and so on....

Was not alluding to AAS solely at all Bricks. The topic was perhaps 5% of what we discussed. I had an issue with being as disciplined as he wanted me to be (eating cod at 7am). Very small piece of the puzzle indeed.

 

[Texan69]

Was not alluding to AAS solely at all Bricks. The topic was perhaps 5% of what we discussed. I had an issue with being as disciplined as he wanted me to be (eating cod at 7am). Very small piece of the puzzle indeed.

If you don’t eat Cod at 7am you will never have the body you want tilapia at 7am get fucked

 

[BRICKS]

Was not alluding to AAS solely at all Bricks. The topic was perhaps 5% of what we discussed. I had an issue with being as disciplined as he wanted me to be (eating cod at 7am). Very small piece of the puzzle indeed.

Brother, you don't need to eat cod at 7 am to achieve an elite level physique and I'd be willing to bet most pro bodybuilders, male and female, do not. And I get it, it's not about cod it's about discipline. That you do need to have.

 

[bvs]

For first time tren i personally think tren ace 50mg eod is a good starting point

Also as someone who is very prone to anxiety, tren didnt seem to make it any worse

 

[Badleroybrown]

I’m about to start a blast with
600mg test cyp and 400mg mast E weekly
12-16 weeks

Tren has been Peaking my interest but I have anxiety issues as it is. So it does scare me since I know it can mess with your mental state. I was looking at adding in 200mg tren e weekly to the mix for a few weeks to see how my body takes tren.

Have been reading a lot. I know 200mg if tren is a low dose however many have notes good results form it in even just 6-8 weeks. I’ve read from some guys personal experiences even just 100mg of tren added in has shown to be effective.

If I do add tren in I will def take the less is more approach. Curious if 100-200mg of tren added in is even worth it.

I would hope caber is not need at a low dose I know some friends who have had some terrible sides from caber.

Just reaching out to the board for some insight and to see if any members have experiences with low doses of tren 100-200mg weekly.

This is my experience.
Tren fucks with me. I am one of those.
So back in April I decided I would do the less is more approach.
Started at 150mg a week. Felt pretty good but by 4 weeks I started to feel a little shakey. Mentally. I mean my anxiety kicked in a little more than I would like. I was fired up all the time. Anyway I upped my dose to 200mg . This is we’re I was going to stay at.. lasted another 2 weeks and had to stop.
Everyone reacts differently to compounds. If you suffer from any kind of aniety or anything like that I would say leave it alone. Especially tren e. I used tren a so I knew within a week the side would start to lessen. Tren e your looking at 3 weeks for you to start feeling a little better.
Just my opinion.

 

[MrRogers]

What was different for me with Tren was that I couldn't "cope ahead." When I blast and double my trt cyp dosage, I go into it knowing I need to watch my irritability which is enough to keep it under wraps. With Tren, I knew I was worrying about disproportionate non-sense but the emotions were unaffected by thinking empirically. I think I mentioned, My wife wasn't down to fool around on a random Wednesday and I was sure we'd eventually end up divorced (as she was obviously no longer into me lol).

One hell of a drug for sure.

 

[Capthowdy]

If you are not in a good state mentally then you shouldn’t be touching any gear at all especially tren. Any thing you use will Play on your mental health even more so when you go off cycle . Obviously everyone is different so tread with caution .


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[Capthowdy]

I’m on 200mg of tren ace a week now . I have used 400mg of tren before , over and over . I never will again… having this experience I am extremely aware of my mental state and exactly what the gear is doing to me . Recently my aggression has gone up a lot . I am well aware of this so I can control myself . The weights pay that price … I don’t think it’s possible for gear to not alter someone’s mental state positive or negative . That’s just my opinion from my own experience . A lot do the times when your being a douche bag from the gear you don’t see your self changing and doing things that you didn’t normally do off the gear . OR!!!!! Even looking at or wanting to fuck women that normal you would probably not go out of your wayfor


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[JackRussel]

This is my experience.
Tren fucks with me. I am one of those.
So back in April I decided I would do the less is more approach.
Started at 150mg a week. Felt pretty good but by 4 weeks I started to feel a little shakey. Mentally. I mean my anxiety kicked in a little more than I would like. I was fired up all the time. Anyway I upped my dose to 200mg . This is we’re I was going to stay at.. lasted another 2 weeks and had to stop.
Everyone reacts differently to compounds. If you suffer from any kind of aniety or anything like that I would say leave it alone. Especially tren e. I used tren a so I knew within a week the side would start to lessen. Tren e your looking at 3 weeks for you to start feeling a little better.
Just my opinion.

And how does this anxiety manifest itself? Sleep disturbance or unexplained worry? Which is it?
I'm wondering because I'm thinking about tren. After your post, I started thinking more about it.

 

[DLTBB]

I can feel and see changes in my physique with Tren Ace at as low as 30mg EOD and that comes with no side effects for me. You don't need much at all. That'd be a good place to start IMO.

 

[JackRussel]

I can feel and see changes in my physique with Tren Ace at as low as 30mg EOD and that comes with no side effects for me. You don't need much at all. That'd be a good place to start IMO.

Apparently, tren affects each person individually. But you also give a low dosage of 30 mg. At that dosage you don't get any anxiety?

 

[Signsin1]

And how does this anxiety manifest itself? Sleep disturbance or unexplained worry? Which is it?
I'm wondering because I'm thinking about tren. After your post, I started thinking more about it.

You keep asking questions to statements (answers to your questions) already made.

Have you not read or researched anything about tren or listened to what these posts are saying?

Dont come into the OPs thread and muck it up with your idiotic questions

I remember BBBG calling you a troll..Its apparent why.. Its also apparent you should not use tren

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

You keep asking questions to statements (answers to your questions) already made.

Have you not read or researched anything about tren or listened to what these posts are saying?

Dont come into the OPs thread and muck it up with your idiotic questions

I remember BBBG calling you a troll..Its apparent why.. Its also apparent you should not use tren

He’s a troll or a retard or both. Last time he wanted to know how to track calories. Totally blown away by that process.

And now he wants to use Tren. That’s great. I think he should. @JackRussel theres no anxiety on it bruh. 50 mg/day. Full send.